Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
[Re: NEMOparttimer]
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Nemo,
I boutght a couple dozen of them many years ago. They were OK for fox since the fox is not very strong but, with coyote being everywhere, you face a good possiblity of them pulling the jaws out of the frame (happened to me a couple of times). The ones I have left will only be used for coon, mink and rats in drowning sets.
I've never baseplated mine and that might help but I still don't like them.
Hope this helps,
Bob
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Semper Fi,
Bob
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
[Re: PAFOXTRAPPER55]
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09/21/07 11:34 AM
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I started out using them my first season last year. Not knowing any better. I had more yote pullouts then I can even remember. They practically tore them all to pieces. They were great for coon....I don't know about fox or cat. But, all they do is educate anything bigger.
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
[Re: bblwi]
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09/22/07 06:25 AM
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I recall four-coiling one in the mid 90s and the pressure I used to set the trap bent the base. Needless to say, I took the second set of coils off.
I believe they were made predominantly as a fox trap and, at the time, coyote weren't as prevalent throughout the US (at least not in the east). The trap worked very well for fox but are just not strong enough for bigger animals. As for coon traps, there’s just way too much room under the jaw (unless you are using a drowning rig).
My .02.
S/F,
Bob
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Bob
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
[Re: SgtMaj Bob]
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I have a dozen of the Victor #2's with the jaws on the inside tips pointing out. Seems like a good trap and I'm looking to use them on yotes. Am I going to have issues with them? I want to do it the right way. Thanks any input would be great. P.S. not trying to hi-jack you topic.
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
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09/22/07 07:56 AM
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The oldstyle #2 Victor coilspring trap will hold an occational coyote, but it's not designed to. It has a weak baseplate and thin jaws which leads to problems once any critter stronger than a red fox is in them. As mentioned above, if you replace the jaws & baseplate it to strengthen the weak parts, it becomes an acceptable trap for an incidental coyote in my opinion. Why go to all that trouble when you can buy traps designed and built to catch & hold coyotes from the git go, i.e. Montgomery, Bridger/Northwoods, Sleepy Creek, new style Victor or the higher end coyote specific traps. Opinions are like, well you know what, everyone's got one, but please don't try to trap coyotes in unmodified old style #2 Victors. old style #2  new style #2 
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
[Re: itrapny]
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09/22/07 10:13 AM
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Thanks that's all I needed. We have some big yotes here in the east. Thanks again.
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
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Coyotes are awfully strong, all their pulling can do some amazing things to traps that aren't quite up to snuff.
I sold some of my square jawed #2s to a guy who still catches plenty of coyotes with them, just double coiled. The only thing I did to them was weld a small glob to the ends of each jaw. It seemed to work fine enough, though I'm sure he's lost some because they're not as strong.
He might have 4-coiled them, I dunno, though.
The only time I had a coyote in one was an accident, but it held long enough to leave one heck of a trap circle, but my stake wasn't built for coyote, and I ended up losing that trap. Or it was stolen, it's hard to say, actually.
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Re: #2 Victor coilspring Square Jaws, Any good ??
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I buy a lot of junked and broken traps. By far the #1 trap that I find damaged is the victor #2 coil. The bases and jaws are just to thin for strong animals and they get bent all to heck. When I first started trying to catch a coyote, that is what I used because that is what I had. I managed to connect a few times that year and was rewarded with catch circles and bent traps. I switched to REAL coyote traps and I haven't had a problem since. If you want to catch a coyote, spend the $6-10 and buy a trap designed for it.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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