So who has something to hide or can't have a simple conversation?

Why was the PRESS RELEASE thread taken down?

A press release that says nothing is simply a uninformative press release.

Because some folks on here don’t have enough common sense to offer anything except negative comments!!! If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem!

Ron, I don't think I said anything at all negative. I just would like to know more about NWCOA dealings with the USDA and this guy that got appointed. What's wrong with that?

I will suggest that you join the NWCOA. Then you can have input into the solution! They are continually asking for assistance and suggestions.

Wow. Must of missed something. Thanks for keeping it clean LAtrapper as getting a voice on the NWSAC had been a long time goal by NWCOA and past NWCOA board members thought this would be a good place to let them know.

Paul here is Dr. Lanham's bio. He is a NWCOA member and the voice of NWCOA members on the NWSAC. Getting a NWCOA member and a "voice" for NWCOA on the NWSAC has been an ongoing quest by not only this board but previous boards as well. Dr. Lanham's credentials speak for themselves and NWCOA will be well served by such a member on the NWSAC.

Warrior, NWCOA only represents NWCOA members not the industry at large. I have not looked at updated members list did you rejoin? NWCOA will be having a meeting at the WILDLIFE EXPO, where through popular vote and delagate system, the direction of any number of issues involving NWCOA members and the direction of NWCOA with issues such as a class action can be addressed.

Bio for J. Drew Lanham, PhD
J. Drew Lanham, a native of Edgefield S.C., is a Certified Wildlife Biologist and holds the B.A. and M.S. in Zoology and a PhD in Forest Resources (wildlife ecology) from Clemson University where he is currently a Full Professor teaching and conducting research in the area of nongame wildlife management, land and conservation ethics, hunting and wildlife management, human/wildlife conflict and field ornithology. In his 16 years at Clemson Drew has mentored over 30 graduate students and is an award winning teacher and researcher. His research projects, generating over one million dollars in revenue have been funded by a diverse array of grantors including The National Wild Turkey Federation, USDA Forest Service, US Fish and Wildlife Service, The Audubon Society and the South Carolina Department of Natural Resources. The subjects of his work include herpetofauna, birds, small mammals, butterflies and increasingly humans and their relationships with nature. He speaks extensively on natural resources conservation to professional and lay audiences alike with a focus on blending science and motivating others to passionately observe and conserve. He is a co-host of a birding and nature show on SC Public radio and a contributor to the Emmy -nominated PBS television show Expeditions with Patrick McMillan.
Dr. Lanham is a member of the South Carolina Wildlife Federation Executive Board and serves as the organization’s affiliate representative to the National Wildlife Federation. He also serves on the Advisory Board of South Carolina Audubon, is a member of the Important Bird Areas Technical Committee, a Board Member of the Bird Education Network and on the Editorial Advisory Board of the Wildlife Professional. In his spare time, Dr. Lanham enjoys birding, deer and turkey hunting, golfing and writing creatively about conservation and nature. He has contributed to several anthologies including a retrospective on one of the great naturalists of the colonies entitled Bartram's Living Legacy; The Travels and Nature of the South (Mercer University Press 2010) ; about deer hunting in Outdoors Adventures in the Upcountry (Hub City Books 2010) and on travels to South Africa in The Colors of Nature (Milkweed Editions 2011). He is published in magazines including Orion, The Wildlife Professional , Forest Landowner and Palmetto Wild. Dr. Lanham's first solo work : The Home Place , Memoirs of a Colored Man’s Search for Self in Nature (Milkweed Editions), is due to be published late 2011, early 2012. An alumnus of the Whole Thinking Community and an inaugural Audubon Society Together Green Fellow, he is currently developing a research and outreach program to assess the land/conservation ethics of rural African American landowners.

And, he is a trapper…

Well,LAtrapper,I believe I asked some pretty specific questions (as a member)and then I became part of the "black helicopter" group.Dont you think putting his bio up and an explaination of why he was nominated in the first placed would have been "part of the solution"?

Steve Rouleau,

Got the run down on some of you concerns from deleted thread. Looking at .info and other NWCOA owned media see that you are not signed up. Also checked my GO email as well as asking a few other board members. None I spoke with has even received an email from you concerning NWCOA in anyway. I know you have never attended or even requested to attend any NWCOA board meeting while I have been the GO. Can't find you signed up as a volunteer for any committees or NWCOA group.

I have seen on this site where you have "female canine-ed" about NWCOA. You will get very little response from board members by posting on this site. With your concerns in last post "part of the solution" perhaps I can offer a real solution. Become active if you see an issue. Want to volunteer for the scientific advisory committee or any number of committees? Run for a board position? Hey we need help at the WILDLIFE EXPO and there will be a board meeting then. Want to volunteer at EXPO you need to clear about 8 days from your schedule I know we could use the help. We have members (who are not currently on the board) who sacrifice their time and help to better NWCOA. How would you like to volunteer?

In closing I am not an employee all NWCOA positions are unpaid volunteer positions. Don't complain because no one hunted you down to get your opinion on an appointment or issue. If you want to be involved get involved it's as simple as that.

Thanks Charles. That explanation was great. I wrote what I read on Goggle and you added to it. That sure beats deleting a column. I tried to act mature, as did David. If anybody else got crazy, I missed it. Hope we can can continue to have intelligent discussions. I figure since I just turned 70, at least I can act like an adult some of the time.

Ok Charles holt, how about mike tucker and Maureen lederer?I've spoken to mike through a pm and Maureen on the phone.So that is a lie that I havent spoken to anyone.Furthermore If you would like a conversation with me, my number is on the bottom of every post! Where's yours?

OK Steve Rouleau

It would be a lie if I said I spoke with Maureen or Mike "checked my GO email as well as asking a few other board members" which as you can see I did not, so before you accuse someone of lying please get it right.

But beyond that how would you like to volunteer?

PS;
My email and contact info is on most if not all NWCOA sites. But as Deb has just given me your number and a message to call you I will give you a call.

Paul,

Thanks. Over on NWCOA face book page got a big thank you from Tim J. I know he wanted a NWCOA member on the NWSAC.

Yes a great thing to be on the Committee, however I am very disappointed that NWCOA doesn't realize the Industry is represented by NWCOA weather you think or want them too. Either way it is good NWCOA is on the committee, just hope WCO's will be represented. It would be very good for NWCOA to express their positions and activity on the Committee and their positions towards USDA competition issues. Just news release type stuff. Best of Luck and congratulation.

Tim I understand and if it helps (as you know) the industry is represented through NWCOA by default as NWCOA is the recognized non profit trade association for this industry. Just speaking for the industry at large when we only have been elected by our members is over reaching in my mind.

I don't want to or would I personally feel comfortable speaking for a non-member. I also don't feel it is fair to speak for non-members when we have paid members. Not arguing the point with you just my personal feelings on subject. But if members direct me by popular vote to speak for the industry at large I SURE would do it personal feeling or not.

If NWCOA could end competition by WS services for it's members and thus ended it for non members it would be a win win. There are now two like minded members of NWSAC so if we can get heard over BIG AG the message will be to end competition. The current party in power could make that an uphill job but I believe Dr.Drew is the man to get NWCOA's message across.

Thanks.

Bickering on a public forum is ridiculous. Perhaps, there is just too much diversity in this industry to be able to work together on common goals.

Dave you are correct about the bickering part! I am appologizing to all of you for voicing my complaints with NWCOA publicly. I called Charles tonite and hopefully everything gets worked out.Charles holt seems to be genuine and truly concerned about the future of the wildlife control industry.NWCOA is not without problems,but maybe I can help fix them!?

There is a need to communicate as a diverse industry. But ADC guys need to move to the adc pro board forum, where the threads have some degree of privacy. This is business talk....not a hobby.

Dang,,,,,,,,, time to call in the Animalish Mafia......

Steve, you are absolutely right about Charles, the rest of the board, not so much.

Dave, what you said about privacy is absolutely true! If I were an Anti, I would have gained some wonderful propaganda from some of the arguments on this site and I, personally, would be the blame for many of them. My New Year's resolution is to take anything negative or any disagreements to Private Messages.

LT also has a valid point that when you tell us about something that has worked well for you, that you also tell your existing and potential customers the same thing. Now I realize that this means nothing to most of your customers, but come on, don't tell me that you guys haven't had a do-it-yourselfer that hasn't made an easy job ridiculously hard. Now I don't know about you, but if I were to blame, with my big mouth, I would kick myself squarely in the butt.

EXACTLY!

The ADC Forum needs to be secured (login required to read)...or you all need move to the ADC Pro Boards.

Ok I was not going to chime in about WS but since the door is open.. With all this talk about how maybe someone is in bed with WS or not, and with all the BS we went through with WS here in Mass. this year. I have to say I am a bit confused as to why they are invited to speak at any seminar. I love WCT and I think Eric is doing a great job but, Why is it that The Key Note Speaker is a state director of WS for OH and one of the speakers is with them also. As Tim J. always said we need to keep talking with everyone but I can't get my brain around giving them a forum to speak their dribble and lies. They need to go away and thats it. I will not be at WCT but not for that reason. I am a speaker at the Wildlife Expo and I can only get the time for one trip this year. I hope you all have a great time and I know it will be worth the money. I hope someone there asks them tough questions about whay they think they should be compeating with private tax paying busniess and puts them on the spot.
But all in all have a great time.
Don LaFountain