We just had our Caves and Man Made Caves tested For WNS and the Caves checked out clean. we haven't any as of yet and I do power wash my Bat traps as well as Bleach them .

Dannel,

Glad to hear you do treat your traps between locations (sincerely), for clarity, I'm not saying you or anyone using these are bad people or operators or unprofessional, I'm just saying that the bat trap isn't necessary and shouldn't be legal in our country and therefore not utilized in our industry.

Justin

Enjoyed reading this thread.

I'd like to make an argument from a purely economic standpoint to advocate exclusion.

Assumptions

Bat jobs equal money for ADC companies.
The more bats, the more bat jobs. (Provided overpopulation is not an issue)
Captured and relocated animals of any species have higher mortality rates than non-captured/relocated animals (Think of a BASS tournament)

In Ohio, WNS has hurt population. Decontamination and anything to keep the bat population as healthy as possible is preferred and better for business.

I am all for having any and every tool legal and available. I will decide how and when to use .... not some gubmint chair jockey political jackwagon.

Phil,

I was told this handle was you as well? Is that so?

PSB1011

Just asking for sake of clarity. If not my apologies for the confusion.

Justin

I am with you Phil N
I like to offer anyway I can to help a customer in there Nuisance Problem's if it means Live trapping Cage trapping or just plane grabbing with a device or hands .

I guess I don't see why some folk's don't like Bat Trapping this came up on a site Robb Russel and I started many years back Robb is one who showed his displeasure in Bat trapping along with Regginal Murray and I don't have a problem with anyone voicing there opinion but to come out and say it isn't professional is Dead wrong because it is one of the first ways study's got done and bats were captured for testing .

I also don't care for the Verbal abuse or criticism of ones Being , when this thread was started just to see if there was any Bat traps out there not being used and for sale .
Like to say thanks to those who don't have Negativity on the subject of Bat Live trapping which is a very useful tool and are still sold on the market today for the WNCO who do Bats .

I also like hearing the other side of this bat Live trapping subject so lets keep it clean and hear whats on other NWCO Mind on the Bat Live trapping Tool subject . Thank You

Dannel,

Mist netting has been used to capture bats long before this trap came around. I clarified a few posts back that I wasn't calling anyone unprofessional this isn't a personal attack, it is telling me that someone has to stand up and speak for the bats and make this trap a thing of the past, can't help that you feel the need for it, so be it until it is illegal, just making it clear I am taking that stand and have others joining me to do so that feel the same way.

The best analogy I have for you is how about if it is a legal method of euthanasia to use a 10lb sledge hammer to dispatch a raccoon caught in your clients yard in the middle of town?

Would you do it just because someone hadn't made it illegal?

Of course you wouldn't because it is ridiculous and so is the idea of NEEDING to trap bats as a wildlife control operator.

You are trying to sell it as NECESSARY.

It isn't, plain and simple, you, me and thousands of others have proven there are more efficient and effective ways that are proven, accepted by bat conservation groups, fish and wildlife groups and a myriad of others whose opinions matter to our legal ability to do this work.

So I guess my idea of using a bat trap and then selling them on Craig's List is not going to make me a millionaire?

Justin,

Thank you for providing the info on cleaning the equipment!!!

Sincerely,

hd......psb is not nichols

Thanks Vinke and no problem Dirk glad to help.

Justin

I do some Bat capturing with Mist netting I have caught some where they are not living in this 450,000.00 home using mist nets they were just Roosting on the House Making a mess but not no more there not .

All I want to say is it is a service I offer and if my client chooses Bat trapping over my other methods I have to do it being they are footing the Bill .
I think I can count on 1 hand how many bats I lost Bat Trapping over the years and I am one to think out of the Box I am not a follower or a copy cat I do common since Thinking when I trap . Here in MI we only have a couple way's to euthanize and I practice these , No Hammer's , Car Exhaust ,no water barrel's , flat shovels . ECT

So you mist netted bats that were roosting and euthanized them? Why in the world?!?!? Where were they roosting?

So dannel you are catching and euthanizing to stop night roosting on the exterior of buildings?

I understand single bat or the like when in home meeting certain conditions where DOH would require testing but while on one hand you are saying you've not lost any bats trapping the other hand your mentioning euthanizing?

Care to clarify why you are killing bats as a wildlife control company or bat excluder?

Justin

You also keep talking about client choice.

If I tell the client what I'm going to do and it is the best way they aren't going to ask for other methods they don't know about.

If a client says I want you to put a body grip trap in my front lawn to catch the raccoon but you also mention live traps as the better option for the scenario do you do what the laymen homeowner decides?

I do have a question. ( Although I'm supposed to know all the answers ) What bat species are we talking about? We have seven species in Wisconsin and although I've only seen four, there is really only one worth talking about. The large brown bat is our bat of choice. ( And no, if you put a young large brown next to an adult small brown, I couldn't tell the difference )

What I am saying is that if every bat removal company, killed every bat they came in contact with, would anyone know the difference? Of course not. But I'm talking about the large brown bat. They will make it come heck or high water.

Now what are the rest of you talking about?

Big Browns. Why kill a species that helps agriculture by consuming insects? They reproduce slowly....opposite of mice. Besides (in my best trapper imitation), why help the insect folks get rich?

Ah Dave, we don't kill bats and neither do any of our competitors that I know of. The question was what species of bats are people referring to.

I answered the question (above). Eptesicus fuscus

So bats get a free pass because they help eat insects? I don't do bat work and really want to know why people are so crazy about the bats.