That could get confusing having a Facebook
Page so close to your name! Is there a actual company
Named Bat specialist of Wisconsin!

Kasey, there is one that I know of. The others are Wisconsin Bat Specialists and they've been around a long time.

Hello Paul and Kasey,
There are 2 companies in WI. One in Green Bay and one in Waterford that are called 'Bat Specialists of Wisconsin' but none with the singular name Bat Specialist of Wisconsin. The pco using that company name uses many aliases and many internet postings to direct anyone interested to just one phone number of his poorly rated company. He is a one man operation that associates himself to other organizations but has little experience and poor ratings everywhere. He is not part of the other two companies as he is also not a part of mine and they too are not happy that he is using that tag line because it makes them look bad.

Michael

Michael

Those are some pretty good yet very generic keywords and not federally trademarked which describe all of you who do bat removal in Wisconsin.

Is that your Trademark registered in Wisconsin ?

There is a big difference in using the Word "Critter Control" in advertising compared to Bat Specialist of Wisconsin because CC protected their name. Just saying!

Trademarks > Trademark Electronic Search System (TESS)
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4801:tvp8lz.1.1

Hello Robb,

Bat Specialists of Wisconsin, Green Bay/Ryan and Waterford/Greg have been associated and recognized by those names and their A+ reputations by most of the best Wildlife Organizations, Pest Control Associations, Biologists and Wildlife Specialists thruout the U.S. Their reputations are now being questioned because people (including potential new customers) are asking why an 'F' rated(BBB) company is now associated with them.
The term 'Specialist' is being used loosely and really DOES NOT describe all of those that do bat removal in Wisconsin. You and others would agree that a Specialist would NOT have: 1)An F rating with the BBB and sould be an accredited business with them 2) be rejected by Angies list after a thorough inspection 3) have extremely negative reviews by past customers on every site they are listed on, 4) would know the WDNR laws and dates on bat exclusion seasons and NOT post different/wrong dates online, 5) would not be under investigation for illegal activity in their business or repeatedly contacted by wardens, 6) would not call wardens liars and question the laws openly at forums like this and others online, 6) would not operate under different aliases that still direct a customer to one phone number for the business that is being widely complained about 7) would not post on their personal facebook page stories and dates admitting exclusions done illegally during the shut down period ...etc.
There are hundreds of bat removal companies in WI. and thousands across the U.S. that have way more experience but don't claim to be specialists. I invite you and all to check this one man operation pco out at every site he is listed at, including www.circuitcourts.com and judge for yourself and see how many cities he claims to have offices in. His company and name are mentioned each year at the State pest control meetings by many pco's as the worst and least reputable bat company in WI. because they continuously hear customer complaints.
Robb, many of us know that you are the designer of some of the websites you have him listed on and expected you to come to his defense, but isn't your reputation and the integrity of your sites more important than the pay per clicks money you get for having people look into his business. Hiding behind an alias like other company names is like changing the name of a pedophile priest to another church and changing his name. The person is still the same no matter what they now choose to call themselves.

Mike There is no pay per click money gain here. Google I am not. I am not worried about any reputation on his part affecting me. I think he owns about 5 domains and one hosting account & we taught him how to use them. My point you are talking about less then 1% of the business we do online. If anything my phone will ring more and I thank you. I have a non compete in Wisconsin not to write local advertising [not including other WI company web sites] on any of my domains unless its for his company.

He buys web services from me. We don't write his content anymore. His company actually employs someone we helped train to do his companies advertising. I also taught him. He has done his own web work since 2010 and is very good at being found on the internet in Wisconsin.

If something illegal is happening In Wisconsin why do we read it here on TMAN and not any where else.

I find out about every bad apple out there. I got rid of both of these guys after documentation from NYDEC. We stopped writing their content and dropped both of them once we received verification from NYDEC. We do broad google news alerts and always look for WCO's in the news Good & Bad. As a media company connected to this industry I usually know every time something serious is happening. Most of that comes by grapevine and I know a lot of your competitors in Wisconsin. http://blog.timesunion.com/advocate/same-bat-story-a-disappearing-contractor/3100/

Personally I have more of a problem with your own state bat removal law and not with the operator.
As long as the homeowner can determine if its a health problem therein lies the problem.
I totally agree with Justin laws will follow with more teeth.

Personally I observe the blackout. I don't have any issue with blackout but I live in a state where I can do bat exclusions for eight months (we have temp restrictions in FL) and not do them for four months APR 15-AUG 15. Our law is very clear.

But Wisconsin leaves a door open for the consumer and no laws are broken.

Hello Robb,
My sincere apology for the misunderstanding. The understanding that many of us had(according to what he told his customers) is that you were like an agent and coach for him that was trying to get as much work for him as possible and he pointed some to your sites that he is listed on to make himself look reputable. It is always good to hear both sides, so thank you for the clarification. It is not hard to see why you got rid of him but the training received thru you has spread to and is affecting many of the reputable bat proofers in this state. I do agree that the WDNR needs to clarify their laws better and that another hearing would definately be in order.
Thanks also for the link about the bad bat proofer- it perfectly mirrors what people are saying here about this pco.

Michael J. Bakke
WISCONSIN BAT SPECIALISTS INC. www.WisconsinBatSpecialistsInc.com. . (since 1979)

On the top of the board there is a rule that says
No flaming! This is a board where we come
To learn and share ideas with each other
not bash other companies that are our competition!
Just focus on being the best you can for
Your company and be happy!

Kasey, Give me a call tomorrow. Have a bat job up in Kelly Lake for you..... You know how i hate to leave the GB area lol

Sounds good troy thanks!

Would anyone like some work in the La Crosse, Sparta, Or Tomah area? I am getting a little swamped. Sure are allot of houses full of bats there though!

I only look out for the small time operators though. NOBODY WHO SUBS OUT WORK!!! Those guys are arm chair operators, and have tons of customers madder than a nest of hornets, but when they complain to him, he directs them to call the guy who SIGNED THE RECIPT. Not his fault right? Anyone want to weigh in on this?

The contract should be with the fellow who subs the work to the worker bees.

You would think so wouldn't ya? I am hoping I can get a few more guys and gals to weigh in on this.

I have been doing a lot of research trying to find laws on different aspects of ADC. My brother and I are looking to start an ADC business very soon.

Is there anything that specifically says the laws on removing/killing bats?

On here I am reading that we cannot kill bats and cannot remove them from june till august but I found different on the WI DNR website
Top of page three
http://dnr.wi.gov/topic/WildlifeHabitat/documents/nuswlguide.pdf

Probably not the right research if you have to put kill bats into a sentence . Sorry! we don't kill bats. Now tap your toes together three times and say we don't kill bats, we don't kill bats we don't kill bats.

Now if you have any doubts about the law just remember we don't kill bats !!

There is quite a difference between fur trapping and bat removal.

Ok, I understand about not killing bats, I dont see a reason too. The reason for my post was to find an official WI Law regarding it. Like I said before my research brought me to a PDF from the WI DNR website that says different than this thread and I am trying to find the correct info.

And what was your comment about fur trapping supposed to point toward since I asked about bat removal not trapping fur? obviously I am in the ADC forum, I am not asking about trapping rats or beaver.

No offense intended. If you read the content in this entire thread you will find the law is open to interpretation " NO TEETH " when it comes to maternity bat colony handling.

Actually it was your question mentioning killing bats and reading the success of your second year in trapping 2012-2013 that put me in that direction. I was kind of wondering what your goals and catches were gonna be for bats is all. lol


"2nd year trapping:2012-2013
Goals/catches

Wolf-1/0
Mink-10/2
Muskrat-1/33
Coyote-20/0
Beaver-20/7
Red Fox-10/0
Gray Fox-5/0
Raccoon-50/9
Weasel-15/6
Otter-1/1

If you are interested in bat removal techniques my podcasts are FREE and you are welcome to PM me if you have questions. The first one back in 2008 we did series of bat podcasts 101,102,103,104 that may help you. http://batremovalpro.com/the-bat-removal-professionals-of-us-canada/podcasts/

I didnt know my sig line could be so confusing LOL. That is from my last season of fur trapping, Yes I am a fur trapper that is looking at getting into ADC work. I am interested in learning different removal techniques for bats as I am sure we will be getting calls for them, I will check out your podcasts, thanks for the info. If I do have any question I will contact you. I appreciate the help.

Shrek - There are lots of guys here in Wisconsin that may try to mislead you into believing that it is totally shut down until AUG 15. Dont believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see. The kind of junk people try to pull on each other in this industry, you would swear we are fur trapping in the 70s. Then was dog eat dog,and now its like that here. Get to know someone real well before you trust them. As for DNR law, call the office in Madison and ask them.