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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3920345
08/01/13 10:12 AM
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In Southeast, there is quite a bit of room, however, private land off the grid is hard to come by, and very expensive. There are a few alternatives, such as a "floathouse", or live-aboard boat. The thing is, the water, weather, and terrain pretty much dictates every aspect of an outing, be it a day trip, an extended hunting or fishing trip, or a full blown adventure. This is dangerous and unforgiving country, and as such, Mother Nature pretty much keeps competition and people density in check. (I'm talking about away from towns of any size).
There is certainly no lack of oportunity to get well away from the beaten path around here, and there are vast areas that probably haven't seen a human in 100 years. The challenge lies in getting there while carrying most of what you will require to survive on your back. Much of this country (southeast Alaska) is not suited for snow machines, and if you head inland from the coast, you are climbing mountains, steep, large ones. And the bulk of them are only climbable with techincal gear.
Then there are the valleys: Some are broad, glacier-fed systems that go for miles and miles, but are restricted to travel by specialized craft, in some cases air boats only. Others are small creeks with brush choked right to the bank, and other than a game trail here or there, are difficult to navigate at best.
Coastal travel is far and away the most popular mode of getting around here, and there is really a LOT of room. Yes, certain areas can get busy, and there are not many "secret spots" close to town, but one can certainly have a beach or cove all to himself with a little boat gas.


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3920414
08/01/13 11:19 AM
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Another thing that will impede population growth here is the fact that only a small percentage of the land is in private ownership. The federal government owns the majority of the land, and it's
all labeled and locked up in one designation or another. The state is in the real estate business and has subdivided some of their land, usually some of their least desirable land, and in out of the way places. But, most of the country is locked up, and the kings men keep tightening the regulations for use and access to it, so I don't see them ever allowing private ownership of any of their current holdings. If there was another population boom here like we had in the '70's, I honestly don't know where the people would stay.

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: Spek Jones] #3920445
08/01/13 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Spek Jones
Another thing that will impede population growth here is the fact that only a small percentage of the land is in private ownership. The federal government owns the majority of the land, and it's
all labeled and locked up in one designation or another. The state is in the real estate business and has subdivided some of their land, usually some of their least desirable land, and in out of the way places. But, most of the country is locked up, and the kings men keep tightening the regulations for use and access to it, so I don't see them ever allowing private ownership of any of their current holdings. If there was another population boom here like we had in the '70's, I honestly don't know where the people would stay.


It appears they are going to come here. I can't wait till they build the road, so I can get on it and leave. frown


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3920478
08/01/13 11:56 AM
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Dirt, I was in your neck of the woods back in the '80's. One of my brothers and I flew in there and finished a log cabin for a guy named Jerry Baker. He had acquired a lot in one of the state subdivisions I mentioned above. Swallowed a lot of mosquitos on that trip. We made sure not to leave anything there that we would have to come back for. smile

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3920556
08/01/13 01:01 PM
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#21 (with credit to my friend "Hook," a one-armed trapper on the Chatanika River...) "If you're gonna play 'dumb-azs," play it down South someplace where you don't die when you finish in First Place....!"

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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3921385
08/01/13 08:54 PM
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#22 "Contrary to popular belief, it is NOT like trapping in Iowa" LOL


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3921890
08/02/13 09:47 AM
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Ditches and farm ponds are few and far between!


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3925855
08/05/13 10:30 AM
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#23- Summer is spent preparing for winter.


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: alaska viking] #3925904
08/05/13 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: alaska viking
#23- Summer is spent preparing for winter.


That's living in north. 4 month's busy time and then the winter is here again and the darkness. 24 hours per day of sun is nice, but way too short period when compared to long winter.

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3926225
08/05/13 03:09 PM
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#24 Have a few grand in cash and an old Ford pickup with a camper. Spend a couple months sightseeing and fishing and camping then leave at first frost.

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3926309
08/05/13 04:19 PM
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How long does darkness last and is it a total darkness ?

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3926481
08/05/13 06:01 PM
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Not here. I'm a little north of 62 degrees. In December we have about 4 hours daylight. It's great ! I wouldn't care if I never saw the sun again !


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3926488
08/05/13 06:03 PM
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#25 When it starts raining it's hunting season, unless you're in Southeast.

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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: MAAA] #3926627
08/05/13 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: MAAA
How long does darkness last and is it a total darkness ?


Barrow is at 71 degrees north and Ketchikan is at 55 degrees north, that's more than 1000 miles between the two. There's a lot of difference in daylight hours depending on how far north you are. Where I trap in S.E. Alaska I have more than six good hours of daylight on the shortest day of the year. If I really stretch it it's more like eight hours from first light to dark. Alaska is a huge place with very different conditions from one area to another. Where I trap the average daily temperature is about 32 degrees in December.


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3927202
08/06/13 12:13 AM
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#26 No matter how much your signifigant other loves Alaska in the summer, plan ahead for an alternative unless she's Alaskan grown.


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3928572
08/06/13 08:34 PM
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I bet it would take a pretty special woman to live in remote Alaska ? But i would be willing to bet that if she was as you say was an Alaska grown woman, would probably be a pretty good woman. Might be a little more drama free as compared to these lower 48 women ? Don't get me wrong we have alot of good womens here in the lower 48 its just that you have to test drive several of them before you find a good one.

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3928940
08/06/13 11:23 PM
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Please correct me if i'm wrong, but I was told that southern Alaska is similar to northern Midwest. For example I live in east ND and I our winter starts in November and ends in usually beginning of May. Is that comparable to like Anchorage? The temps get down to -30 or colder every winter just about .

Obviously its a lot drier here as its not coastal.

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: otterman] #3928942
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Its consistently in the teens-30s all winter long here.

Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: Backcountry] #3929376
08/07/13 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: SloughTrapper#4
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but I was told that southern Alaska is similar to northern Midwest. .


I heard it is pretty much like Iowa...


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Re: Alaskan Dreamers [Re: Hupurest] #3929735
08/07/13 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hupurest
Originally Posted By: SloughTrapper#4
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but I was told that southern Alaska is similar to northern Midwest. .


I heard it is pretty much like Iowa...


Refer back to #22


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