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Red fox in cage traps #3987289
09/06/13 11:14 PM
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Anyone catch adult red fox in cages?

Last edited by blackhammer; 09/06/13 11:16 PM.

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Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3987309
09/06/13 11:25 PM
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Yes.

Reds are pretty easy to catch in cages. The trick for me has been using a trap with a wire pan instead of solid metal. if solid metal is the only option then I like tying a road kill rabbit in the back of the cage and set the trigger on very sensitive. They seem to step over the pan and the pulling on the bait is enough to close the door on them.

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3987859
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Quote:
They seem to step over the pan


wouldn't a "GUIDE" solve this?...


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Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3988171
09/07/13 03:41 PM
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Vinke, a good Alaskan guide can be expensive. I found using Wickenkamps for foxes to be ideal. ( Although I may try Comstocks too )

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: Vinke] #3988208
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Originally Posted By: Vinke
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They seem to step over the pan


wouldn't a "GUIDE" solve this?...


A picture would be fantastic.

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3988969
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Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: Nathan Krause] #3992335
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Originally Posted By: Trapping By Nate
Yes.

Reds are pretty easy to catch in cages. The trick for me has been using a trap with a wire pan instead of solid metal. if solid metal is the only option then I like tying a road kill rabbit in the back of the cage and set the trigger on very sensitive. They seem to step over the pan and the pulling on the bait is enough to close the door on them.



you wont mind showing us some of your pictures to back up that statement.


never make someone a priority when they make you an option !
Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3992382
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mousie, keep in mind that Nate is also talking about young foxes too. Very rarely do I catch the female around the den but I nail dear old dad quite often. ( Sometimes I think he would rather be hauled away than having to hunt night and day to keep everyone fed )

P.S. I have a bunch of fox pictures; I'm just too dumb to figure out how to post them.

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: mousie] #3992403
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Originally Posted By: mousie
Originally Posted By: Trapping By Nate
Yes.

Reds are pretty easy to catch in cages. The trick for me has been using a trap with a wire pan instead of solid metal. if solid metal is the only option then I like tying a road kill rabbit in the back of the cage and set the trigger on very sensitive. They seem to step over the pan and the pulling on the bait is enough to close the door on them.



you wont mind showing us some of your pictures to back up that statement.


Nope. I am pretty sure I do not need to back up my statement. Anyone who has been doing this line of work for any amount of time knows reds are not hard to catch in a cage. Next time you get called for a fox job leave the foot holds at home and give it a try. You might shock yourself.

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3992744
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Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3992843
09/10/13 08:15 AM
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I disagree.
Anyone who makes such a claim, should be able to post a picture.
To do so may indicate otherwise...and anyone who traps, has photos.
They just do.
(unless you're Amish)

While red fox pups are not hard to catch in urban settings in cage traps, (while they are young) adult red foxes are a different matter.
Yes, I do know that adult red foxes can be caught in cage traps, I myself have done it.
It isn't something I would say I can easily do, all the time.

LATrapper is the one man I would say has done it the most with his drift fencing etc.

Red foxes as a whole, are too wary to take numbers of them in cage traps.
If they weren't, we'd all be catching them like raccoon.
Do trappers catch them ?
Sure. But they can back up their claims.
And if I make one, I'll have a pic to support it!

They above picture indicates is a carrying cage, with its wired shut doors and strap, more than an actual trap, although not to say it isn't the trap that caught the fox.



I'd like to tell you I can do this easily, but it only happened once...



Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: Kristen🦊] #3992844
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Originally Posted By: Kristen

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3992975
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Lol I say grow up and get over it! Let mousie
Settle her own dispute, you run to her like a mother
Goose!

I've cought 3 adult red fox in cage traps. And I
Don't have a pic of any of them.
Also never set up for a red fox job yet that
I Didnt get the adult in the first 3 days! So
Is it easy? I guess so far it has been! Maybe
It varies from area to area. So get off the high
Horse and why does anyone have to prove anything
to you two?



Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3993297
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I still stand behind my statement that, basically is just agreeing that trappers who make statement should be able to 'back up their claims ! '
Many trappers like fisherman, tell some mighty tall tales...and that isn't to say one was just told. not at all.
Just that when a trapper says something, it shouldn't be a problem to prove it !

If I ask LATrapper to prove it......he could do it very easily...and has !

Vinke proved he could catch mink and otter in cage traps with ease, Havaharts, none the less.
And he did it with photos...

I have over 3000 pictures on Photobucket.
I could come up with a couple of pictures, if someone ask...

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3993534
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I don't disagree with LT. Nothing wrong with asking someone to back up their statement. Especially when a lot of people on this forum are in business less than a year and pretend to know everything about wildlife control.

But the person who asked is the reason I said no. I don't like Mousie. I think she is rude, childish, and comes off as a know it all. And she is one of those who has been riding in a passenger seat for a few months and talks like she knows everything. I am sure LT is a great teacher and have heard nothing but good about his training but I will not entertain mousie on this forum.

I am certain I saw Jordan ask her a question directly in the past that she avoided answering, so why should I answer her question? She might feel she is above answering his questions but I know I am above answering hers.

Don't get me wrong, I wish her all the best and hope she is successful, but I don't like her trapperman persona and chose to not deal with her.

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3993657
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Gotta back Nate on that one... wink

Conflict of interest, will often times cause people to butt heads or avoid people altogether.
If someone chooses to NOT acknowledge someone for whatever reason, that is certainly their choice.

I don't care to answer Bud's question, if it had been ask of me.
It wasn't.
mousie was in fact trained by me.
She is currently off on her own and I do wish her much success.
While she comes off as 'I can do it better than you can', it is just someone trying to prove themselves.
She is, in fact a very good WCO.
Probably as good as many guys who have worked with/for me.
Her shortcomings are her size and upper body strength, although she is very strong for someone 115 lbs.
Still, you won't see her pick up a 40 ft. ladder and most of us could !
It's hard for a woman to compete in this business, or trapping in general.
Men will flat run over you, a point I've often stressed.
mousie will get ran over and it won't be the first time.
She will however pick herself up, toughen up and maybe learn to shut up...(well, two outsa three ain't bad) laugh

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3993662
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Lighten up guys. Some people don't come across in print as well as they do in person. There are a lot of people that I have great respect for that won't even post on Trapperman any more because of criticism. Lord knows I have had to apologize plenty of times to people who misconstrued what I was trying to say. ( Or perhaps I was just being a dumba$$ )

If you would like a shining example of two posters who did not get along, think of me and Pesky. To his credit, Pesky stayed the course and I am finding him more to my liking every day. ( I think his post about his son's special deer permit was very enjoyable reading )

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3993680
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Ha...the other day mousie got sprayed right in the face and she,( after she got done throwing up),
looked up (on her hands and knees, tearie eyed and vomit in her hair) and said, "Yep, I'm pretty sure that's how ol' Pesky would have done it"
I laughed so hard, I wet myself...(need to get that prostrate problem under control, I guess) laugh

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: blackhammer] #3993764
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Thanks LT, Nate, Kasey, and especially mousie. It isn't always easy to find a story to write about for WCT. Although I'm certainly not the first one to write about women in the ADC business, I can certainly approach it from a new angle.

P.S. Once again, anyone who has never had a subscription to WCT magazine, please send me your name, address, and E-mail address. I will personally buy you your first year's subscription. ( If you don't believe me, I'm sure there are a number of people on here that can confirm that )

P.S.S. It has occurred to me that some of you might want to suggest themes or topics for columns or stories or even additions to WCT. My E-mail is wildlifecontrollers@yahoo.com. ( And I usually read it several times a day )

Re: Red fox in cage traps [Re: LT GREY] #3994033
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Originally Posted By: LT GREY

Still, you won't see her pick up a 40 ft. ladder and most of us could !

I have only had one person work for me who could handle a 40 foot ladder by themselves. The rest struggled with a 28 foot ladder. My wife and daughter both help from time to time and I don't expect them to carry anything over a step ladder or do other things that I have seen men struggle to do. I do enjoy watching them try to carry a water logged beaver or a big ol' boar coon in a cage though.


Originally Posted By: LT GREY
maybe learn to shut up...(well, two outsa three ain't bad) laugh


Never said she needs to shut up. This is America and she can speak her mind freely no matter who it makes mad. It would be sad if she was afraid to say what is on her mind.

Paul doing an article about females in ADC is a great topic and one you have first hand experience with. I look forward to reading it.

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