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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: alaska viking] #3947634
08/17/13 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: alaska viking
Good grief! The poor gulos don't stand a chance!


You need to stop killing them in the summer when they are nursing kits, but then if mum dies, pappy will come back and take care of them. crazy


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3948900
08/18/13 09:14 AM
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Cranky? …no don't think so. What's a matter Dirt only you get to be designated smart A$$? I will admit you seem to be very skilled for the job but I have my own talents in that department.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3948991
08/18/13 10:25 AM
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I think this forum has a pretty high percentage of people that qualify. cool


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3949068
08/18/13 11:22 AM
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My wife & kids will tell you that I am both cranky & a smarty pants.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3951081
08/19/13 11:29 AM
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Getting back to wolverine trapping. Last year I had some success with a ball of caribou fur hung near my trap with a lure made of no-toxic boiler antifreeze and castor. This year I think i am going to bump it up with some whale oil. The wolverine played with the ball a few minuts before getting trapped. Got one in a leghold for lynx and one in a 330 in a red & green plywood box. They ate a couple lynx before I got them though.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3956686
08/21/13 11:34 PM
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Beaver castor was number two attractant 411 - after wolverine musk, in the study mentioned above. I have seal oil which I use as an base for some lure, whale oil sounds like a winner.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3956797
08/22/13 02:19 AM
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Now I have a bait: Anybody have some pics or even better video how to set a deadfall trigger for a milk crate conibear trap?

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3957058
08/22/13 09:13 AM
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What do you mean a "deadfall trigger" with a conibear 411 ? Personally I gave up on milk crate sets for lynx and wolverines as I saw too much avoidance but some folks seem to have pretty good luck with them.


Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3958961
08/23/13 02:54 AM
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Deadfall trigger: a wire going back from the dog to the crate then to a bait.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3959203
08/23/13 08:18 AM
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OK I got you. I screwed eye hook into back of plastic milk crate and ran the bait wire through it. I took a couple lynx in them but as mentioned had lots of avoidance as well. Some guys do good with them though so I'll be e ager to see how you make out.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3962678
08/24/13 10:42 PM
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This is a very interesting thread.

Though I have never trapped a wolverine, and may well never have the opportunity to, this conversation and the snare sets with the caught wolverine suspended made me think of a set I used to use when I was a kid and couldn't afford conibears.

The set is a swing pole powered snare, triggered by pulling a bait. A set which I used to catch a lot of fisher and a few marten. Others may have used something similar, I haven't invented many things, but I came up with this when I was 14 or15.

My trigger consisted of one 20 penny nail with the head cut off, a bait holder made of an 8 inch piece of heavy wire, I would wrap the middle of it around a rod bigger than the 20 penny nail so it would have equal legs on each side of a double wrapped loop. I sharpened the ends or cut them on an angle so they were sharp. I would put the loop on the rod, bend both legs to form a "V" parallel with the rod then bend the sharp ends inward at a 90 degree angle or more. This was the bait holder, I would spread the sharp ends apart and impale my bait chunks on them, I carried a bunch of these in a bag in my pack or sled.

The site was chosen, of course, very near fisher travel ways I knew of. Usually a large white spruce tree with another 4-6 inch thick tree within a few feet for the swing pole fulcrum. I would drive the headless nail into the base of the tree about 6 inches from the ground and leave an inch and a half or so sticking out, make sure the end wasn't peened or burred ( had a chainsaw raker file with), I would usually cut the swing pole and tie it with wire or twine to the nearby small tree, so the end of the swing pole would rotate down and end up directly above the headless nail. The baited wire device can sip on to the headless nail now. Tie a piece of heavy wire to the end of the swing pole and make a nice round half inch loop in the end. the wire loop should be no more than a foot from the swing pole end. Slide the swing pole wire loop onto the baited nail. The bait gets pulled, the swing pole comes free and swings high.

I would build the sides of the cubby, lower the swing pole and catch the loop on the baited nail. Then I would attach my snare to the swing pole and support my loop about 9 inches out from the bait, with very little or no slack between the positioned snare loop and the swing pole. I would fence the loop with twigs, and roof the cubby with balsam or spruce boughs.

The fisher would enter the cubby, pull the bait, releasing the swing pole, the fisher would be pulled right through the bough roof and would not be chewed on by shrews and stuff.

I caught a greedy marten that was carrying a meal already, he left 2 voles outside the cubby, and grabbed the bait and went for his ride through the cubby roof.

This set may work, with some adjustments in size and swing pole weight for wolverine or lynx.

It took longer to write this than to make a set, I hope it makes sense. I used to pre make these so I had a bunch ready for season. I should have set snares for the foxes that sometimes circled.

I used 1/16 1X19 cable with a 5-6 inch loop about 4 inches off the ground or packed snow. I had sets that snowed over and fisher still dove in and got caught a few times.

You can imagine the thrill of a kid snowshoeing down the line seeing a nice dark fisher suspended above the snow... better than today's video games!

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3963110
08/25/13 10:02 AM
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Really neat set Dale, & I can imaging the excitement!!!

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #3971628
08/29/13 11:08 AM
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Should be a good year for wolverine the porcupine caribou herd went through so lots of carion around to get the pups through to the fall.
Here is a photo of the log wolverine trap I mentioned earlier for those who do not want to watch the video

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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4005686
09/17/13 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bushman
Dirt - I bet if you work through that ADD and focus you might find the odd nugget of information that could help you out. For example if you were to start drinking turpentine so you could pee turpentine I bet your catch ratio would go up. And since when has any topic on this forum stayed on track? That's part of the fun of it, seeing where it goes. Do you actually trap wolverines up your way?





I'm pretty sure these are wolverines. wink


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Dirt] #4006359
09/17/13 08:06 PM
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OMG Dirt I didn't see you in Toronto at the sale buying wolverine pelts. smile


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4006484
09/17/13 08:56 PM
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That photo has to be taken in White17's place, that or Dirt also enjoys drawing photos with crayons. hmmmmm


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4006503
09/17/13 09:00 PM
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Dirt borrowed my crayons for a couple of seasons. He promised not to break them, eat them, or peel all the paper off.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4006684
09/17/13 10:40 PM
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Did you notice mine are dead and taxidermy skinned and not alive and on a trail camera. smile


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4006780
09/18/13 12:38 AM
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Ouch!

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Family Trapper] #4008350
09/18/13 09:58 PM
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Dirt I noticed they are very well handled also. Good job. Nice old wringer washer also.


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