coon trap preferenc?
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11/07/13 11:02 PM
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North Dakota
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I'm finally ready to rock and role. It only took me 8 months of fighting with our state DWR, county, and city but I'm fooly "LOL" licensed and ready to operate. Coons are starting to become prominent in my area, just wondering which cage traps hold up best, the ten I started with are completely dead after 3 to 4 coons. I'm going to get 20/25 more and want to get my money worth out of them. I would rather pay more for those that would hold up. Any advice would be appreciated!!!!!!!
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: Swift Arrow]
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11/07/13 11:44 PM
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North Dakota
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I have watched his videos and they look good, just haven't talked to anyone who has used them. thanks for the info warrior....
Swift Arrow A+ ANIMAL CONTROL Trophies shouldn't be judged by the size of antlers on the wall, but the size of the smile when the memory is recalled!
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: Swift Arrow]
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11/08/13 11:08 AM
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NH
sgs
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...my safeguard looks the same as the day I bought it. I've noticed that. I have Safeguards that are 5 years old and still look brand new. I wonder how they do that.
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: Swift Arrow]
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11/08/13 02:37 PM
11/08/13 02:37 PM
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DaveK
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: DAVE SALYS-CWCP]
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11/08/13 03:24 PM
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Waterford, WI
Nathan Krause
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Nate I can't see a coon getting out of a Comstock. Those springs are so strong I sometimes have trouble setting the darn thing. In Jim's defense he did tell me that they had problems with the early traps and mine is a early addition. They sent some clips for me to install to help with that problem but when I went to install the clips I almost cut my finger off so decided to not try that again. I do not have any of the newer Comstock traps but I have heard they are revamped and supposed to be great. I am looking forward to seeing some next time I take a trip up to Tomahawk Facility.
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: Paul Winkelmann]
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11/08/13 08:36 PM
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Georgia
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David, it looks to me like all of them will hold coon. Which one do you use? I use them all. I got more of his universal models than anything else. My preference is the two door model with a guillotine on one end and a spring door on the other. Reason I can check from a distance if need be plus the guillotine is much easier as a bait/release door. I also have several of his standard double spring door. The multi catch is the shizzle when dealing with cats or mama coon and kittens, many doubles with that one. I even put his tube beaver trap into use for coon, cats and dillers. Plus a few prototypes such as one of his single door ring locking. I've even used the square beaver for dry land critters.
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: Swift Arrow]
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11/10/13 02:11 AM
11/10/13 02:11 AM
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Western Montana
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My experience with the Tomahawk trap company this summer left a very bad taste in my mouth. Not too sure I will deal with them again. The quality of trap I got from them was fine. But the customer service was pathetic.
Just because something is legal doesn't make it smart.
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Re: coon trap preferenc?
[Re: Swift Arrow]
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11/10/13 10:12 AM
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Eric Arnold
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The best thing to do is purchase 1 or 2 traps from each manufacturer and see what works best for your style and usage. Safeguard and Tomahawk both have entry level and professional level models and there is a big difference between the two. I have a entry level raccoon sized Tomahawk that I wouldn't consider standing on, while I wouldn't think twice about using the professional model. Heck, I've even stood on a professional model squirrel trap from Tomahawk without doing any damage to it (and I'm not a skinny guy like Dirk).
Look for 16 ga or smaller 1/2 x 1 1/2 wire and stay away from most of the 1 x 1. While a raccoon will have issues damaging 12 ga 1 x 1 wire, it still has about an 8 inch reach outside the trap allowing it to pull whatever it can get its paws on in or scratching up roofs and walls. To stop this you need to make sure the coon cannot reach anything. So plan to install wire around the outside of the trap or place it on a board they cannot reach past. Make sure you have the strength to set the trap as the spring strength is the number one complaint I hear about with the Comstock traps (I only have the beaver model until my raccoon one gets returned to the operator I lent it too to do a write-up on it).
Try both gravity and spring loaded doors. Gravity doors are generally cheaper but if you're setting on inclines (like roofs) they may not close all the way as quick as you need. Release doors are nice if you're using transport cages, but not a feature needed if you are taking the trap back with you to dispatch the catch each time.
Look at how you open the door when releasing a caught animal so you don't get bit or how you need to prop the door open to insert an animal on the end of a snare pole. Some models have handles on the doors and/or locks that need released while some don't. Take some time and figure out your trapping style. Some traps work better as baited sets while others work better as blind sets.
Finally, look at your budget. Williams makes a great gravity door trap that costs about 1/2 of the others professional series, but it is made out of 1 x 1 wire. So you may want to do something like buy 2 Williams (or any other manufacture) and then buy 1 of the others (Advance trap, Comstock, Safeguard Professional, Tomahawk Professional, etc). This method lets you build the trap base you want while make it more affordable.
Lastly, remember that no matter what you buy, keep in mind that if the trap gets run over because you forgot where it was or to secure it on the truck, it won't matter who made it. The same can be said for most times a trap comes off a roof. Keep a watch on WCT Magazine for an upcoming article and training video on this subject.
Eric Arnold Publishing Editor W.C.T. Magazine Editor The Fur Taker Magazine
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