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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4053284
10/15/13 01:09 AM
10/15/13 01:09 AM
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Lake Iliamna Ak
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Jim Almost invariably where I put in a set there's another one that's a bit different with another type of lure or bait on it. Trail sets for wolf in between sets and crossovers. Lots of snare's around sets for wolverine,lot's of Lynx lately, lynx carcass for bait works great for everything. I shot this fellow on the ice in front of our house! Jim

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4053580
10/15/13 08:13 AM
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I only set where I see tracks or have seen tracks in past years. As far as whether to set the north or south side it would depend ONLY on where the tracks are. For me. But, if you can only travel one side of the river I would choose the up wind side if you have a prevailing wind direction. The trouble is, a guy never knows which way these guys will be coming from but they will use and reuse the same route year after year. So if you see tracks in a spot one year or make a catch in a spot one year, chances are that wolverines will use that same route or spot in future years.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4054012
10/15/13 12:23 PM
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Congratis ....Nice one sully ! Would you say that one is a juvenile or adult?

Is there a preference for cable size in relation to securing a 330?
..specifically 7 strand or 19 strand.......what seems to withstand the "barrel rolls"
The best???

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4054184
10/15/13 01:51 PM
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I try to put my sets on the side of the river that does not have the ten foot high snowdrifts.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4054516
10/15/13 04:39 PM
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I've never seen them roll enough in a 330 to matter what the cable is.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4057628
10/16/13 10:54 PM
10/16/13 10:54 PM
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SW AK
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Thanks everyone for your comments. I'm out here in SW part of the state. Rivers bottoms are the only places with any brush. Tundra is bare. Gonna try setting upwind of the trees, so my lure will cover better.

I hear you on the 10 foot drifts.

Nice color variation on that wolverine Jim!

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4065486
10/21/13 12:37 PM
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This is a wolverine me and Samuel snared a couple years ago. I bought commercial wolf snares and they had stoppers on them to keep you from catching non target animals. The snarecould not get small enough to choke out the wolverine so he was recently caught and still full of energy. Had to shoot him we were going hunting caribou and no one had a 22 Samuel shot him with 270. Made a big hole, but in the head. Sold it for local use so it worked out.
Any one else have photos of wolverine in snares?

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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: white17] #4157834
12/06/13 05:55 PM
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I built a log cubby like this and left it on a hill for the summer to become natural. A grizzly bear ripped it apart.

Originally Posted By: white17




I think many wolverines may have been smacked by a 120 if they are in an area where people are making sets on the ground. Small diameter pole sets discourage most wolverines from investigating marten sets too closely. I also think that the more different traplines a wolverine encounters, the better his chances for being educated. Most people are too lazy to approach it correctly, IMO.

I would disagree about snares and footholds having a high failure rate if a guy uses the proper hardware and thinks about what he's doing.

I can honestly say that the last wolverine I lost from a foothold was in 1993. It was from a #3 victor in a cat set. It was plenty of trap for a cat, but not gulo, and my mistake was not anticipating his arrival.

The last snared gulo I lost was about 1998. It was from one of my snare poles and he got his back feet on the ground and twisted until the cable broke. I should have realized the set was too low. Now I know.

I do agree with him that a myth has grown up around these animals. But it isn't because they are smart or cunning or magical. It's because we are lazy and don't think through all the possibilities.


Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: muskrat411] #4158680
12/06/13 11:33 PM
12/06/13 11:33 PM
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Interior Alaska
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Originally Posted By: muskrat411
This is a wolverine me and Samuel snared a couple years ago. I bought commercial wolf snares and they had stoppers on them to keep you from catching non target animals. The snarecould not get small enough to choke out the wolverine so he was recently caught and still full of energy. Had to shoot him we were going hunting caribou and no one had a 22 Samuel shot him with 270. Made a big hole, but in the head. Sold it for local use so it worked out.
Any one else have photos of wolverine in snares?


Woulda been a perfect candidate for the paper bag!

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4158738
12/07/13 12:08 AM
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I just had one run all over the line I'm tinkering with, perfect timing for the thread...shame I had to pull for a couple weeks! Looked like he's following the bou around I reckon looking for wolf kills?

I remember I think it was in Guloboys presentation that they anchored a 330 with left over grader blades? Was surprising how far it drug that thing. I think a used regular blade is what 65-70lbs? chipper teeth is a bit lighter....butter blades are lighter yet.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4159473
12/07/13 01:32 PM
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I've mentioned the research project I'm involved with. So far five wolverines collared. Three females and two males. What do you think average weights for female and male is? small sample with only five wolverines but interesting. Two of the gulos were aggressive in traps while others were more passive. One would not come out of open trap until researchers left

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4159979
12/07/13 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: Bushman
I've mentioned the research project I'm involved with. So far five wolverines collared. Three females and two males. What do you think average weights for female and male is?

It's been many years since I had a line with wolverine on it, but if my recollection is any good I would say about 25 Lbs for females up to about 30 lbs and for males 35 to 40 lbs.They actually look heavier than they actually are.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160118
12/07/13 07:07 PM
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23-25 for the girls, 28-32 for the boys...

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160163
12/07/13 07:22 PM
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I'll post weights after a few more estimates.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: smalltimetrapper] #4160233
12/07/13 07:48 PM
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Paper bag? Don't get it?

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160319
12/07/13 08:18 PM
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You just get a heavy paper bag and grab the live wolverine in a leg scissors and choke hold,and slip the paper bag over his head-then he calms right down and you cut off his air with the paper bag until he expires.There is pics of it on here somewhere.No fur damage with that method.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160324
12/07/13 08:18 PM
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Northern Manitoba
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35-38 for the boys and 27-30 for the ladies.

Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160339
12/07/13 08:22 PM
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Females average 19, males 28


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160463
12/07/13 09:15 PM
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Females 22 lbs, males 28 lbs.


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Re: Wolverine trapping [Re: Bushman] #4160480
12/07/13 09:24 PM
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I have it on good authority(saw it on TV) they weigh 60 pounds or more laugh


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