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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4082128
10/29/13 01:02 PM
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Im not sure, did you look up pest control companies? or just NWCOS?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4082138
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Wyoming is pretty much a wide open market, the only WCO I ever heard of was in Cody and I don't know if he's still active. If you look at NWCOA's member list nobody is listed for WY not to mean you have to be a member but it's a good indication of lack of operators. I tried servicing the northern cities in WY in my early years but the closest WY city is still over 100 miles away and I have plenty to do here at home. I'll bet WY is like MT and that nobody is willing to pay what it takes to make a profit at pigeon trapping, with daily or twice a day trap checks it gets expensive FAST.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4082150
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I just looked for wildlife control, frankly though I have more relations now with pest controllers, I would expect most of them belong
to the NPMA and therefore can go to WS if they feel this is an issue and show the MOU they have stating they won't compete.

I see more competition from the pest control industry as they are already in the door doing typical pest work. I had two places in the last
month where I went in and dropped a card and said I can resolve this pigeon issue your having, only to see spike show up about 3 weeks
later on both.

Who installed the spike? The folks on contract for their other pest issues (mice, roaches, etc...)

In my market the competition that is most fierce isn't from NWCO's it is from the name brand pest controllers who dabble in wildlife, they all know how to put up spike and it seems to be (along with avicide) to be their go to for every installation.

I'm sure there are a bunch of pest controllers in that city who do bird work and other, I know we are mixed and mingled now with the pest control industry and many folks obviously offer all services, but I'm still thinking in terms of wildlife control industry.

Justin


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Very true Dave! I have helped with referrals for bats there and the closest operator was in Idaho and was several hundred miles away!


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4082325
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Here is USDA's new directive on Urban Wildlife Control.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/directives/2.345_Urban_Rodent.pdf


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4086167
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usdas official policy on Urban Wildlife has been posted on the federal register.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-08-14/pdf/2013-19831.pdf


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: wildlifeus] #4086766
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Originally Posted By: wildlifeus
usdas official policy on Urban Wildlife has been posted on the federal register.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2013-08-14/pdf/2013-19831.pdf


Of course it was entered into the federal register !!

We were sold out and unfair competition will just get worse from here on out.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4122006
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4283282
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Look what I found.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4283286
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Do you know if you can merg threads?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4297725
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Join us for our next FREE monthly Stewardship Network Webcast! The webcast will be on Wednesday, February 12th, and will focus on "Feral Swine - an Unwelcome Visitor."
Presentation by: Tim Wilson, USDA Wildlife Services; and Lisa Brush, The Stewardship Network
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Feral swine can cause considerable damage to property and pose a disease threat to domestic animals. The rooting and wallowing activities of feral swine can cause serious erosion to riparian areas and wetlands, and damage to agricultural crops. These destructive animals have been known to tear through livestock and game fences, consume animal feed, and prey upon small livestock. Feral swine are also known to prey upon wildlife, especially ground nesting birds, small mammals, and deer fawns. Feral swine are also susceptible to a variety of diseases (such as pseudorabies, swine brucellosis, and classical swine fever) that are transmittable to domestic animals.
USDA Wildlife Services has been working cooperatively with the Michigan Departments of Agriculture and Rural Development, Natural Resources, and the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy to locate feral swine. Once feral swine are located, technical assistance and traps are made available to landowners who want to trap these animals. Blood samples are then taken from trapped swine for disease surveillance. Efforts are being made to educate the public that the perils of feral swine far outweigh any potential positive recreational benefits.
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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4303081
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Indiana Mammal EA Supplement Notice for Public Review/Comment
02/06/2014
NOTICE OF AVAILABILITY

The USDA, APHIS, Wildlife Services (WS), has prepared a Supplement to the Environmental Assessment (EA), “REDUCING MAMMAL DAMAGE IN THE STATE OF INDIANA.” The EA analyzed the potential environmental impacts of alternatives for WS involvement in mammal damage management in Indiana. The EA Supplement is available for review and comment prior to issuing a decision on the alternative to be selected and its associated environmental impacts. Interested parties may obtain the Supplement by contacting: USDA APHIS Wildlife Services, Purdue University, Smith Hall, 901 W. State Street, West Lafayette, IN 47907-2089, (765) 494-6229, FAX (765) 494-9475, by clicking on the below link, or http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/portal/aph...rams%2FSA_NEPA.

We request that all comments on the Supplement to the EA be sent to the address or FAX number listed above by March 15, 2014. When faxing a comment, a copy should also be mailed to ensure that a complete version of the text is received. All comments received, including the names and addresses of those who comment, will be part of the public record and will be released for public review as required and allowed by law.

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The USDA, APHIS, Wildlife Services (WS) has prepared a Supplement to the Environmental Assessment (EA), “SHOOTING WHITE-TAILED DEER TO ASSIST THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA, FAIRMOUNT PARK COMMISSION IN ACHIEVING DEER POPULATION REDUCTIONS ON PARK PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE PENNSYLVANIA COUNTIES OF DELAWARE, MONTGOMERY, AND PHILADELPHIA.” The Supplement to the EA analyzes the potential environmental impacts of alternatives for WS involvement in deer damage management in the Philadelphia parks. The EA Supplement is available for review and comment prior to issuing a decision on the alternative to be selected and its associated environmental impacts. Interested parties may obtain the Supplement by contacting: USDA APHIS Wildlife Services, P.O. Box 60827, Harrisburg, PA 17106-0827, (717) 236-9451, FAX (717) 236-9454, by clicking the link below, or http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wps/portal/aph...rams%2FSA_NEPA.

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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4303214
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This is one of those deals that so far, I have no argument with. We have a private company that gets paid less to whack a deer and take its body to a butcher, than we get paid to drag a car kill off of a lawn. All I can say is that as cold as it has been this year, I'm glad there wasn't enough money involved to get our company interested.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: DAVE SALYS-CWCP] #4306538
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Originally Posted By: warrior
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I would love to see private ADC businesses attempt to protect 1,540 miles of trout the streams.



What makes you think private enterprise can't? I know one south ga trapper that single handedly covers hundreds of miles of watershed.
If you think size is the issue remember this, McDonald's has served one billion.


Looks like WS averages less than one beaver per mile of "protected stream."

I just can't see how a private company could afford to take on a project of that magnitude. You'd think labor alone would put them in the red.

I guess I've just never had an issue with Wisconsin's WS program.

They don't touch skunks, raccoons, snakes, bats, coyotes, squirrels, moles, feral cats, muskrats or opossums. Also, from what I've read, NWOs do almost all the urban white-tail control in the state as well.

They can have their one measly beaver per mile and its funding.

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They do touch those animals and they do control deer in your state.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #4306862
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There is No beaver work In northeast
WI, wildlife services suck it all up on our tax
Money. They don't even give everyday trappers
A chance at them! I have done a total of one
Beaver job In. 4 years of business, and I have
Seen countless streams with WS beaver
Control signs!



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Originally Posted By: wildlifeus
They do touch those animals.


No they don't. Not in Wisconsin.

WDNR will give you some crappy Hav-A-Heart live traps and tell you to get a trapping license if you call in coon or wood chuck issues or anything like that.

I also had a friend who lost some lambs to coyotes and WS wasn't able to help him. Said he either needed to start shooting them or hire a trapper.

Originally Posted By: wildlifeus
They do control deer in your state.


The last city I lived in (Stevens Point) had a private company doing their urban white-tail work.

I've heard much of the same from others.

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Mr. Aaron Geistfeld
Absolute Wildlife Control
3711 Haga Drive
Plover, WI 54467

Dear Mr. Geistfeld:
Additional funds have been made available to the City of Stevens Point for deer culling. You may now cull additional antlerless
deer at your quote of $70.00 per deer culled through January 31, 2014.

Your new total
is as follows: 28 deer culled x $70.00 per deer = $1,960.00.

The City’s objective is to cull as many deer as soon as feasible.

The previous instructions remain in place.

This agreement may be terminated upon 24 hours’ notice by the City for reasons deemed sufficient by the
City.

We wish you success in your culling venture.

Sincerely,

Elbert J. Rackow

Chair

Deer Management Committee
715-341-1393

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: SedgeTrapper] #4307033
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I just can't see how a private company could afford to take on a project of that magnitude. You'd think labor alone would put them in the red.


You do not have a full understanding of a lot of the WCO companies in this country. Our company controls a lot more land then that in three states and make a very good profit. The devil is in the details and that's for others to figure out, but it can and is done by many other companies. As for WS doing a better job..NOT even close.
Don LaFountain CWCP

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Originally Posted By: Trapper Don
I just can't see how a private company could afford to take on a project of that magnitude. You'd think labor alone would put them in the red.


As for WS doing a better job..NOT even close.



I never said that...

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Trapper Don] #4307058
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I really don't have a stake in this fight, I'm not trying to get under anyone's skin.

The two WS employees I've met in Wisconsin were educated, cordial, and accommodating.

My friend said much of the same (despite being [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot] off they wouldn't take some coyotes off his property).

I just think there is room for both of you in the state of Wisconsin.


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