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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4362159
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If anyone has actual field experience please weigh in. My knowledge is purely theoretical of the armchair type. I have read as much as I can find on the Web on the subject but for some reason some aspects of suppressor work isn't openly discussed.


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4362172
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Thanks, am gonna look into it more.


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4362276
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Field Experience: The Crosman .177 caliber American Classic air pistol. I was feeding the turkey and had 10 pumps in my trusty air pistol when I pulled it out and shot the turkey in the head at about 6 inches away. The result was not what I expected. The turkey ran and then flew away and I think it flipped me the bird as it was leaving. I might just as well have used a rubber band and a paper clip. I am not making this up.

Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4363658
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this guy's you tube page is good info for high end air rifles

http://www.youtube.com/user/EdgunUSA


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4364080
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Field Experience: Gamo CFX .22 caliber air rifle. Same turkey, one shot to the head at 25 yards and we're eating turkey sammiches.

P.S. I watched a couple of the YouTube clips that Vinke recommended and they were really good. Which means that now I'll probably have to get myself a Benjamin Marauder.

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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4365016
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Just a friendly reminder....cans (suppressors) are a NFA regulated item, my last Nfa Item took around 8 months to process on a personal living trust.

So you have the cost of a can...399.00 to 1500.00
Nfa will be 200.00 for the tax stamp.
A NFA gun Trust if legal in your state can be made by a lawyer that is familiar with nfa weapons laws for around 500.00.


So be prepared to wait a long time and spend money..


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4365095
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Thanks, Dale. I knew all that but you are right to bring it up. The legal issues can be a royal pia. I hear of guys running afoul of the chief law enforcement officer approval in areas where cans are otherwise legal but the cleo is an anti or otherwise opposed.
I also think folks need to know how the stamp works far as safekeeping and traveling with the can.
Please fill us in.


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4365455
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Quote:
A NFA gun Trust if legal in your state can be made by a lawyer that is familiar with nfa weapons laws for around 500.00.


You got screwed dale,,,,,,89 buck and we can add as many as we want to the trust..........


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4365468
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I actually use an AirForce Talon made by Airforce Airguns out of Fort Worth, Texas. I had been using Benjamin pump-up for years for pigeons because I could control the velosity so as to kill the bird but not punch a hole in the roof/ceiling of the building I was working in. Due to a shoulder surgery I wasn't able to pump the gun so thats when I bought the Talon. It has an adjustment wheel that you turn with your thumb to change the velocity from around 4oo f.p.s.to 1100 f.p.s. I set the velosity of the Talon with that of the Benjamin by using a chronograph and it is a great tool. I paid close to a thousand bucks for the gun and scope and wish I had bought it sooner. Oh, that also includes two barrels, .22 & .177 cal.


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: Vinke] #4366772
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Originally Posted By: Vinke
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A NFA gun Trust if legal in your state can be made by a lawyer that is familiar with nfa weapons laws for around 500.00.


You got screwed dale,,,,,,89 buck and we can add as many as we want to the trust..........


Nope mine was free...


Other things you should also note.

Travel with a NFA item inside your state may or may not be regulated, BUT transport over state lines has to be approved by the Batfe. You must submitt a letter stating your intentions/plans well in advance of your trip, anytime you deal with Batfe be prepared to wait a while.

Possession of a Nfa item is only permitted to those on your trust or auctual owners of the item.

Ownership of nfa item is a open invite for the batfe to visit you and inspect how your items are stored. They strongly prefer to see them locked up in a safe with limited access.


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4366843
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
Having the barrel of the firearm about a foot inside your car or house window really does a great job of silencing the noise outside.

I have just walked off 32 feet in case I get a .223. ( I would have to seated at the kitchen table to quietly shoot out of the patio door )


Paul your comments and post are one of my favorite things to read on the ADC forum hahaha

Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4366848
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Don't ask me how I know but firing a few times from inside a truck and you will have no need for a silencer for your own sake.


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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: warrior] #4367072
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Originally Posted By: warrior
Don't ask me how I know but firing a few times from inside a truck and you will have no need for a silencer for your own sake.


You bet! Lol!

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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: Dale in Texas] #4367317
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Originally Posted By: Dale in Texas
Oh and I will add...there is not a company on earth that makes a suppessor that is movie quiet, its a thing of myth.


So have you ever heard the rugger 10-22 that comes with suppressor barrel ? All you hear is the action when it cycles.
and whatever the bullet hits. I don't own one yet but have shot a couple that belong to friends.
Awesome gun

Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4367378
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My experience is with suppressors from LaneLLC in South Dakota. Like has been said, keep your ammo sub sonic and all you will hear on a bolt action is the sound of the firing pin and the impact of the bullet. With standard velocity if your running it through a pistol with a barrel shorter than 5.5 inches, most will be subsonic. It's really weird/cool how you can hear the action on an AR when your shooting and hear the impact a spilt second later.Right now, at least here, Dealers are filing E-file and its taking about 90 days. They also are setting you up with a free Trust with purchase of any can. I forgot to mention, on bigger calibers, a Suppressor really reduces the recoil on your hard recoiling guns. I know a few guys that put them on for that reason alone to get their wives/kids into bigger rifles.

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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: Paul Winkelmann] #4368172
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Originally Posted By: Paul Winkelmann
Having the barrel of the firearm about a foot inside your car or house window really does a great job of silencing the noise outside.

I have just walked off 32 feet in case I get a .223. ( I would have to seated at the kitchen table to quietly shoot out of the patio door )


That wouldn't help me on a job but thanks for the info.

Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: Tray] #4368175
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Originally Posted By: Tray
I have been able to shoot a couple of suppressed 22 rifles that were very quiet, much less noise then any pellet gun, also a 44 mag rifle that was fairly quiet. The key is to shoot subsonic ammunition. Some guys just "load down" a gun to keep it subsonic and that will work also. A good suppressed high power rifle will be reduced enough that a shooter doesn't need ear protection.

The 44mag is on my list as I can handload down for further effectiveness.

Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4368193
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Good feedback guys.
It seems I may not have given the new breed of airguns a fair shake. However if the cost was the same of getting the paperwork through on a can for one of my existing rifles I think I may go forward with it. Mostly Small Game applications but up to and including close range head shot whitetail.

Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4372603
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I recently shot a De Lisle Carbine silenced in 45 ACP. Bout the coolest thing Ive shot in awhile. Beats my 10/22 all to . It should too for how much my friend paid $1600.

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Re: Anyone with "suppressed" rifle experience? [Re: huntinjunkie] #4383393
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