Re: Beaver under ice
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03/11/14 01:08 PM
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MAkes sense Boco I really tend to dislike resets and now I get how your using the blockers. I am sure there would be a little trial and error for someone doing when they haven't before but I can see where it will be helpful with otter as well
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/11/14 02:19 PM
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Yes Yukon,I use that set when the ice is coming on in Nov.No open water but not enough ice to walk on yet.I have set as many as 5 traps side by side in a set like that and take otter and beaver and the odd rat in one check.They are caught coming as well as going. ![](http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2014/03/full-21521-206160-pb020030.jpg)
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/11/14 02:54 PM
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One thing to remember,these type of sets are only worth making when you trap an area that has extended trap check laws. In the lower 48 where you have to check traps every day these sets are hardly worth making.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/11/14 04:30 PM
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None in the North for either kill or restraint. In the south I believe it is none for killing traps and daily for restraining traps. Personally I would not leave a live animal in a trap more than a day. It is kind of silly to have a trap check time on killing sets. There is a statute that says it is an offense to let an animal spoil in a trap.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/11/14 10:10 PM
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I will take a pic of the trapstand and traps and the location of the blocking sticks. I will be away for a week so I will post pic when I return home. You can get away with weak traps under ice as the stands are stuck in the bottom and frozen at the top so the traps are solid.Same if you use tamarack poles. SK trapper one of our council members with a welder made them up.They are the same as the commercial ones except they are a foot longer. FT,once we cut the ice we determine the width of the run by feeling the side banks,as you can see,some are wide enough for 3 traps side by side,some are wide at the house and narrow down - those take two side by side and one out front where the entrance narrows,if the run is wide all the way out we set two or three close to the house and two out in front.The size and shape of the entrance run determines the configuration of the traps. If you are targeting a small house(a pair) obviously you don't need 4 or 5 traps,two will do.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/11/14 10:17 PM
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if the sets are under ice we have no check limit and open water is 3 days here. i like your set up with the H stands
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/13/14 08:01 PM
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You can get away with weak traps under ice as the stands are stuck in the bottom and frozen at the top so the traps are solid.Same if you use tamarack poles. I had not thought of that. I use a single pole and when the trap fires the trap becomes loose on the pole and able to swing around. By securing both sides of the trap it would eliminate the problems I had with my one pole, (which I love to use.) method.
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Re: Beaver under ice
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03/24/14 07:27 PM
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Thanks for the reminder deerstand,I forgot about this thread. ![](http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2014/03/full-21521-208577-p3240434.jpg) ![](http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2014/03/full-21521-208578-p3240435.jpg) ![](http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2014/03/full-21521-208579-p3240436.jpg) I showed this with two traps only,but in real life I would set one or two more out in front of those two. The block sticks should be positioned as shown to prevent one caught beaver from snapping two traps.When setting two more in front set far enough in front so caught beaver cannot fire trap in front or behind,leaving them working for the next beaver using the entrance run.You need block sticks when setting bodygrips close together,side by side.One trap is a belisle and one is an LDL.
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