Thanks Lundy!

Justin, David, good to see you keeping the conversation on a scientific level, rather than fill-in-the-missing-bits-with-conjecture reasoning.
David, would like to discuss fliers with you. When is the movie releasing on which you were "snake wrangler"?

Dave, while I think that you're taking all the fun out of Trapperman by getting rid of "fill in the missing bits with conjecture", I

think your article in WCT was outstanding in many aspects. I am not going to go into the article and highlight the really good stuff.

What the heck, I give away your first subscription; after articles like yours, everyone should be able to afford their own after that.

Let them read it themselves. All I know for sure is that a lot of your material for that article could have been taken from the

Winkelmann book of operating procedures. Well done!

Foam hacks

Jordan,

Huh?

Lots of guys banging out bat jobs with foam, us non foamers call those that do, foam hacks

Intuitive, just confirming...

Of course, the freezing and thawing in northern climates do open up bat entries faster than any chewing!

Thanks, Wink; can't wait to see the article! Everybody seems to get WCT before I do!

Nothing more aggervatin' than people stealing my traps/catches. I hope I can help reduce this for others.

Wink, up there might be cold but down here we get wind lifting metal roofs which negates just about anything you do along the roofline of you don't take this lifting potential into account.

Good point about structures moving due to various factors no matter what you exclude with.

I learned a long time ago to look down when sizing up a bat job. If the foundation has cracks or there are signs of water damage I need to determine if anything can be expected to move during the warranty period. Of course with my background in the trades that came as a no brainer.

Good background to have David!

The job I just started on Friday is a seasonal "cabin" (not log) that is in good repair but typical metal roof we see in the mountains
here.

The folks hired a local handyman last year to seal where they saw bats post fall last year when they assumed the bats were gone.

He actually came by when I went to inspect and noted to me in front of them that the "darn bats pulled the material out" that he
had installed.

The day I inspected the clouds burst and lightning along with it and so the high roof wasn't inspected, just bid based on the logical
issues we always see in any of these areas.

When I went to do the work on Friday I ascended the 32' ladder to reach this ridge he had sealed and what do I see at the top? That
every screw within 2' of the end of this ridge point have all loosened to the point where the 1 1/2" roofing screws are all showing completely
head to tip. His roofing foam inserts that were caulked in were literally standing on end in the space with no sign of any damage from chewing
just simply lifted out when the roof lifted...

I see this a lot and as I believe Paul A. mentioned awhile back on here about how many roofs they sold folks a side job of screwing the roofing down
with larger diameter roofing screws to reaffix it, I see tons of opportunity for this and with the bat exclusion and anchoring materials we are always trying to make sure we anchor anything we do where the roof will have to completely blow off before we might lose our seal.

Of course as we all know there are things that should be outside your warranty that can and do regularly happen. Had a home where they noted bats had returned and as we turned the corner of the structure 4 pieces of cedar siding were completely gone from winter winds and storms leaving a nice 2x4' gap for bats to enter, nothing to do with exclusion materials.

Anyway, pays to think of these things no matter what material you are using, when selling exclusion services...

Justin