Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 08:55 AM
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The 14s don't have sharp teeth they are very blunt and kept the foot from sliding. I don't have access to the WI wolf studies but that's what I was told from the persons doing the trapping.
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 09:32 AM
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The "right trap" for any species depends on the methods used to catch that particular animal, and method depends on geographical location, climate, etc. As Mark pointed out, it's all about variables, and when those variables come together harmoniously you've got a formula for success.
So arguing about which trap is best for coyotes in isolation, without taking into consideration the methods used to catch those (particular) coyotes, is not very productive. I think you'll find that those who use very different sized traps for the same species, and are successful, will employ different methods based on their own set of conditions - aka variables.
Anyway, I hope Mark returns. I've never used his lures before, but I will now. I think his honest engagement with fellow trappers here and elsewhere boosts his credibility, and I appreciate that. Thank you, Mark!
"...in a very few days we succeeded in taking over one hundred beaver, the skins of which were worth ten dollars per pound." Jim Beckwourth (1856)
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 10:11 AM
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Makes since Beav. Information like that should be available to show antis
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 01:34 PM
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Thanks taxi could not remember where it was.
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 06:04 PM
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Public perseption, and they don't seem to fight as hard!
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 11:13 PM
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Mmtrapper....because some of us actually care about the comfort and well being of the animal. Even if we're gonna kill it in the end, we owe it to the coyote to make it as painless as possible. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I see a critter with a messed up paw it upsets me. I don't want to cause an animal unnecessary pain.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/08/15 11:16 PM
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I with Bob. But there are times that some things can not be controlled that cause foot damage. You just gota get experience and do the best you can.
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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10/09/15 07:34 AM
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Mmtrapper....because some of us actually care about the comfort and well being of the animal. Even if we're gonna kill it in the end, we owe it to the coyote to make it as painless as possible. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I see a critter with a messed up paw it upsets me. I don't want to cause an animal unnecessary pain. I've said this many times on threads like this one. Call me soft or what you will but I too hate to see any animal I catch with any undo damage caused by something maybe I could have prevented.
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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I have dozens of montgomery #2,and #3's. I also have a dozen victor#3 old square jaws. I love them all for coyotes. The victors seem to struggle a bit when staked down. On a drag with 10' of chain they are great! If anyone could help post a few pics for me i can show you a bunch of catches with both.
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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02/14/18 07:17 PM
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The "right trap" for any species depends on the methods used to catch that particular animal, and method depends on geographical location, climate, etc. As Mark pointed out, it's all about variables, and when those variables come together harmoniously you've got a formula for success.
So arguing about which trap is best for coyotes in isolation, without taking into consideration the methods used to catch those (particular) coyotes, is not very productive. I think you'll find that those who use very different sized traps for the same species, and are successful, will employ different methods based on their own set of conditions - aka variables.
Anyway, I hope Mark returns. I've never used his lures before, but I will now. I think his honest engagement with fellow trappers here and elsewhere boosts his credibility, and I appreciate that. Thank you, Mark! My thoughts exactly! Very well put!
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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02/19/18 04:50 AM
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Somebody send me 6 of each so i can test them and post my opinion:) I use #3 victor softcatch right now for lynx, red fox and occasional wolverine. Checking out the #3 and #4 victor offset forged jaw. They look like they would work well up here. Has anybody switched the softcatch jaws out for the offset jaws? Cheaper than buying new traps.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: Victor #3 vs. mb-550 vs. Montgomery #3
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02/19/18 05:53 AM
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Somebody send me 6 of each so i can test them and post my opinion:) I use #3 victor softcatch right now for lynx, red fox and occasional wolverine. Checking out the #3 and #4 victor offset forged jaw. They look like they would work well up here. Has anybody switched the softcatch jaws out for the offset jaws? Cheaper than buying new traps. Little insomnia going on here but lol, I use the victor offset forge jaw in the 3and 4s in a dog less versions or they are called victor Monty's. Been using them since they came out. On coyotes ,cats, like them so well in coyotes that's all I use.feet are good and you like the lockup better than on your soft catch version I am willing to bet. Caught and held of wolves in them .
Kenneth schoening
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