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Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5325665 12/20/15 10:40 PM 12/20/15 10:40 PM
Joined: Sep 2014 carolina, Alabama The Possum Man trapper
The Possum Man trapper Joined: Sep 2014 carolina, Alabama	I like mine so far for what they were meant for...coyotes and cats...even fox have been ok in them. Very easy to bed solid, big kill area. I have only ever tried setting them with one hand setters and its been easy as pie. I loosened the bolt till the pan fell on its own weight and waxed them. NOW with all that said, i have not yet held a coon by the front foot in one. Probably had about 5-6 with big catch circle and coon tracks with no coon. Back foot coon are there though. I was not targeting coons at all with them...all coyote sets but tons of coon around and really havent cared at all they got loose on their own. Landowners want the coon gone though. "If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5325672 12/20/15 10:43 PM 12/20/15 10:43 PM
Joined: Sep 2014 carolina, Alabama The Possum Man trapper
The Possum Man trapper Joined: Sep 2014 carolina, Alabama	this "dead spot" everyone talks about is on the very back of the pan above where it pivots...its not exactly dead just harder to trip on that spot than on free end of pan. Just like every other trap lol. Pan needs to hinge further back instead of under where the back of the pan is. I havent had anything step on this spot yet and not get caught though because their foot is big enough to get on the other 98% of the pan that operates normally. "If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough"

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5325754 12/20/15 11:19 PM 12/20/15 11:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 sw Mo motrapper87 trapper
motrapper87 trapper Joined: Dec 2014 sw Mo	The sterling its a copy of has no dead spot at all cause of the way it has a gun notch trigger. Thats the part they didnt get quite right

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5327807 12/22/15 05:03 AM 12/22/15 05:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Jacksonville, IL B bwhntr100 trapper
bwhntr100 trapper B Joined: Jan 2012 Jacksonville, IL	I bet if those 650s cost about $10 more apiece there wouldn't be any dead spot. That's right, they'd be MJ600s.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5327999 12/22/15 09:52 AM 12/22/15 09:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 sw Mo motrapper87 trapper
motrapper87 trapper Joined: Dec 2014 sw Mo	No im sorry they would not be a mj600. If you have any sterlings put them side by side there are several differences

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5331420 12/24/15 11:48 AM 12/24/15 11:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2015 Uvalde County, TX 3 3rd generation trapper
3rd generation trapper 3 Joined: Jan 2015 Uvalde County, TX	I didn't have much trouble setting my brand new 650's last year. In this past off-season I painted and dipped them. I also loosened the bolt so the pans would fall freely. Just yesterday I had a traps go off two different times while I was bedding the trap. Needless to say I have some sore and bruised fingers. I don't have a trap pan tester but plan on tightening those bolts a little before I bed the next one. It will be a guess as to how much to tighten, but I am really too nervous to set another one with the hair trigger they seem to have right now.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5331438 12/24/15 11:58 AM 12/24/15 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Upper Peninsula, Mi C coykill trapper
coykill trapper C Joined: Jan 2012 Upper Peninsula, Mi	3rd gen. you don't need a pan tester to set the pans to the weight you want. If you want them at 3# take a 3# weight and use that or whatever pan tension you want.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5331570 12/24/15 02:01 PM 12/24/15 02:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Va P pass-thru trapper
pass-thru trapper P Joined: Dec 2006 Va	I have both and have used the 650's a good deal, not yet trapped much with the 600's. Just from setting them, the night latch on the 600 is harder to detect when it is set. I don't get an audible click and have to visually inspect it.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5394605 01/31/16 12:25 PM 01/31/16 12:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 GA C canebrake OP trapper
canebrake OP trapper C Joined: Mar 2015 GA	Well, I decided to order a dozen 650s IL. The pan tension is all over the place on these things. I haven't tested all 12 yet, but some of them I can adjust right down to a hair trigger if I want. One of them I could not get to go under 3 pounds. My Sullivan's pan tester maxes out on another one, and I have the pan adjusted to where it is floppy loose. They do not seem to be consistent at all. Not impressed in the slightest with these traps, especially considering what they cost.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5394960 01/31/16 05:42 PM 01/31/16 05:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2013 Lowell, MI M MIsparkz trapper
MIsparkz trapper M Joined: Nov 2013 Lowell, MI	Sometimes I think I live in an alternate reality than everyone else. I don't know how many times I've read on here that "I loosen the screw till the pan drops on it's own and it's just right". Not one of my dozen 650's stay set if I do that. I don't know why you wouldn't be able to get them all the same. Have you waxed them all already? What ticks me off about them is pan tension changes I belive with temperature. I washed, dyed and waxed them all. Adjusted every one to 2 1/2 lbs and set. Couple weeks later I checked them all and had tension all over the place. A couple bottomed out the Sullivan trap tester. So if you get them all set make sure you check them once in awhile. Sure wish I could figure out how to remedy it because I love everything else about them.

Re: MB 650 [Re: MIsparkz] #5395017 01/31/16 06:24 PM 01/31/16 06:24 PM
Joined: Sep 2015 Broome NY . not the city greenetrapper trapper
greenetrapper trapper Joined: Sep 2015 Broome NY . not the city	Originally Posted By: MIsparkz Sometimes I think I live in an alternate reality than everyone else. I don't know how many times I've read on here that "I loosen the screw till the pan drops on it's own and it's just right". Not one of my dozen 650's stay set if I do that. I don't know why you wouldn't be able to get them all the same. Have you waxed them all already? What ticks me off about them is pan tension changes I belive with temperature. I washed, dyed and waxed them all. Adjusted every one to 2 1/2 lbs and set. Couple weeks later I checked them all and had tension all over the place. A couple bottomed out the Sullivan trap tester. So if you get them all set make sure you check them once in awhile. Sure wish I could figure out how to remedy it because I love everything else about them. I agree 100% . I think it is rust and moisture as well . I set mine with just enough to hold the pan up . when I snapped my line I really had to push on some . I did catch a gray fox a Fisher and a cat in mine though . I would buy a lot more if I trusted the pan system . Right now I only own 3.

Re: MB 650 [Re: MIsparkz] #5395144 01/31/16 07:59 PM 01/31/16 07:59 PM
Joined: Mar 2015 GA C canebrake OP trapper
canebrake OP trapper C Joined: Mar 2015 GA	Originally Posted By: MIsparkz Sometimes I think I live in an alternate reality than everyone else. I don't know how many times I've read on here that "I loosen the screw till the pan drops on it's own and it's just right". Not one of my dozen 650's stay set if I do that. I don't know why you wouldn't be able to get them all the same. Have you waxed them all already? What ticks me off about them is pan tension changes I belive with temperature. I washed, dyed and waxed them all. Adjusted every one to 2 1/2 lbs and set. Couple weeks later I checked them all and had tension all over the place. A couple bottomed out the Sullivan trap tester. So if you get them all set make sure you check them once in awhile. Sure wish I could figure out how to remedy it because I love everything else about them. Yes they are waxed, and your experience mirrors mine. It also seems like the pan tension goes way, way up after sitting in the ground for a few days. Set one to where the pan falls on it's own, and it will go off while you are bedding it. Do that to the next one and it may be 4+ pounds. I do not trust these traps at all.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5395273 01/31/16 08:45 PM 01/31/16 08:45 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI. Seldom trapper
Seldom trapper Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI.	I strongly suggest you folks having pan tension problems do a search and you'll find where in the last two years I've posted several times what the problem is and how to fix it. There will be photos in those posts of mine. LOOK TO THE TRIGGER ROD BRACKETS AND THE LATERAL SLOP! Last edited by Seldom; 01/31/16 08:47 PM. "A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5395866 02/01/16 03:08 AM 02/01/16 03:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Orange, Texas Chick trapper
Chick trapper Joined: Dec 2013 Orange, Texas	Seldom, I found your posts, but photobucket says you removed your pictures NRA and TSRA Life Member Hunter and Trapper

Re: MB 650 [Re: Chick] #5395977 02/01/16 09:21 AM 02/01/16 09:21 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI. Seldom trapper
Seldom trapper Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI.	Originally Posted By: Chick Seldom, I found your posts, but photobucket says you removed your pictures Yikes! Here they are- Straighten both brackets as needed Add washer(s) at removable bracket end to remove lateral slop of the trigger rod Last edited by Seldom; 02/01/16 04:45 PM. "A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5396042 02/01/16 10:16 AM 02/01/16 10:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il G Golf ball trapper
Golf ball trapper G Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il	I do have the answer to the problem for you guys that dislike , hate, dispies the MB 650 . Send me a pm and I will buy them from you ! I've got about 2.5 dozen of them, the only trap I've had any trouble with is one that got run over. Took me about ten minuets to get it back in working condition ! Last edited by Golf ball; 02/01/16 10:20 AM.

Re: MB 650 [Re: Golf ball] #5396252 02/01/16 01:08 PM 02/01/16 01:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2013 Southern Nevada C cat_trapper_nv "Cat Master"
cat_trapper_nv "Cat Master" C Joined: Feb 2013 Southern Nevada	Originally Posted By: Golf ball I do have the answer to the problem for you guys that dislike , hate, dispies the MB 650 . Send me a pm and I will buy them from you ! I've got about 2.5 dozen of them, the only trap I've had any trouble with is one that got run over. Took me about ten minuets to get it back in working condition ! Same here. I love my MBs. I do nothing to them but degrease and dye. The stiff pan tension is why I like them. A coyote or bobcat can easily set off 5lbs of pan tension. What has a tough time setting them off is pack rats, rabbits, kit fox, and grey fox. In some of the places I trap, you will never catch a bobcats if you can't keep the fox and rabbits out. If I want to catch a fox, I set a trap made for fox and thats why I have MB450s as well. If traps work like the Antis say......I would have no fingers.

Re: MB 650 [Re: canebrake] #5396311 02/01/16 02:08 PM 02/01/16 02:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il G Golf ball trapper
Golf ball trapper G Joined: Dec 2014 E central Il	I wasn't being a smart ars , well maybe a little but I was planning to order another dozen. If any of you guys that don't like them want to get rid of them let me know.

Re: MB 650 [Re: Seldom] #5396449 02/01/16 03:55 PM 02/01/16 03:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 South Central Nebraska age 71 tmrschessie trapper
tmrschessie trapper Joined: Dec 2006 South Central Nebraska age 71	Originally Posted By: Seldom Originally Posted By: Chick Seldom, I found your posts, but photobucket says you removed your pictures Yikes! Here they are- Washer added Straighten both brackets as needed Seldom if you will use the in house method of saving your pictures to your post I will "Archive" this post for future trappers. Tom The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing... http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubb...ting_wire_stretchers_LOT.html#Post795218 http://www.nebraskafurharvesters.com/ http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1459836.html#Post1459836 http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1463672.html#Post1463672

Re: MB 650 [Re: tmrschessie] #5396507 02/01/16 04:51 PM 02/01/16 04:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI. Seldom trapper
Seldom trapper Joined: Mar 2007 Midland, MI.	I believe I got them fixed Tom, thank you for helping me. "A few want to know WHY, the majority appear to be satisfied just knowing HOW!" Youtube Channel- SeldomFales

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