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Snowdog snow machine
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02/24/17 05:02 PM
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Does anyone have any experience with these (good or bad)? I'm considering buying one for use with trapping.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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02/24/17 06:10 PM
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Never tried one but it looks like it would be fairly useless for trapping.
Might be good to pull your kids up the sleigh hill.(toy)
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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02/24/17 09:32 PM
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No apology needed fellas – I was just hoping for some substance to go along with the opinion. From what I can tell – they look very transportable to fit in the back of my truck – supposedly they can pull over 600 pounds, and they work on everything from grass to snow.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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02/24/17 10:21 PM
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First off, very slow. Second, rough ride and very uncomfortable, since you sit in a sleigh with no suspension. Third, most of snowmobile manoeuvering off trail is done with body language. You couldn't lean the snow dog at all. Fourth, when you want traction to pull something, you actually benefit from having a bit of weight (the rider) over the machine. Since you are already towing the rider, that takes away from what you can tow. Get into a bit of powder and I feel like the machine will spin and struggle a bit even with just a rider in the sleigh. Just not heavy enough. An almost 800 pound skandic with a rider will tow 1000 lbs, and even that needs to be on a trail. I feel like their 600 lb tow rating is a bit liberal just given the weight of the machine alone.
When a sled accelerates, it transfers weight onto the track. Same in powder. More of a performance thing, but not happening with the snow dog.
I could be totally wrong, and likely am on a few points, but that is my take on it at a glance. It could have its uses in certain situations, but like I said, not a use that can't be replicated with the most basic of sleds. And sleds with a dealer network, and readily available parts. I'd look into a small trailer and a 1990-2000 era tundra or even bravo at less than the price point of a snowdog.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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02/24/17 10:55 PM
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Thanks for the reply-- this is what I was looking for (having never owned a snowmobile or atv etc.). I'll definitely look into trying one out before making any decisions to purchase. First off, very slow. Second, rough ride and very uncomfortable, since you sit in a sleigh with no suspension. Third, most of snowmobile manoeuvering off trail is done with body language. You couldn't lean the snow dog at all. Fourth, when you want traction to pull something, you actually benefit from having a bit of weight (the rider) over the machine. Since you are already towing the rider, that takes away from what you can tow. Get into a bit of powder and I feel like the machine will spin and struggle a bit even with just a rider in the sleigh. Just not heavy enough. An almost 800 pound skandic with a rider will tow 1000 lbs, and even that needs to be on a trail. I feel like their 600 lb tow rating is a bit liberal just given the weight of the machine alone.
When a sled accelerates, it transfers weight onto the track. Same in powder. More of a performance thing, but not happening with the snow dog.
I could be totally wrong, and likely am on a few points, but that is my take on it at a glance. It could have its uses in certain situations, but like I said, not a use that can't be replicated with the most basic of sleds. And sleds with a dealer network, and readily available parts. I'd look into a small trailer and a 1990-2000 era tundra or even bravo at less than the price point of a snowdog.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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Hello guys! My name is Sergei. I'm from SnowDog company and I want to address some qustions posted here about the machines. First off, very slow. Second, rough ride and very uncomfortable, since you sit in a sleigh with no suspension. Third, most of snowmobile manoeuvering off trail is done with body language. You couldn't lean the snow dog at all. Fourth, when you want traction to pull something, you actually benefit from having a bit of weight (the rider) over the machine. Since you are already towing the rider, that takes away from what you can tow. Get into a bit of powder and I feel like the machine will spin and struggle a bit even with just a rider in the sleigh. Just not heavy enough. An almost 800 pound skandic with a rider will tow 1000 lbs, and even that needs to be on a trail. I feel like their 600 lb tow rating is a bit liberal just given the weight of the machine alone.
When a sled accelerates, it transfers weight onto the track. Same in powder. More of a performance thing, but not happening with the snow dog.
I could be totally wrong, and likely am on a few points, but that is my take on it at a glance. It could have its uses in certain situations, but like I said, not a use that can't be replicated with the most basic of sleds. And sleds with a dealer network, and readily available parts. I'd look into a small trailer and a 1990-2000 era tundra or even bravo at less than the price point of a snowdog. SnowDog is about combining: 1. lesser cost (several times lower than the cost of an average snowmobile) 2. small size (can be transported in a car), 3. agility (can go where snowmobile can't) 4. year-round use (not just for snow/ice, it'll ride on grass, marshland etc.) with 5. speed (up to 20 mph), 6. power (pulls up to 600 lbs, the number is real - just depends on the land surface) 7. ability to overcome rough terrain. You are correct, of course, that the latter three points aren't as strong as in case of a full blown snowmobile. The idea is that, in many situations, the combination of 1, 2, 3 and 4 is more important. It's not "snowmobile's obsolete", but rather "different tools for different circumstances" logic. Ride comfort generally depends on the land surface. Also, rides become more comfortable since we have developed soft seat, and introduced tubeless low pressure tires for shock absorption. Finally, now SnowDog has a dealer network in the US and Canada, so parts/maintenance won't be a problem at all. You can ask me any specific questions about these mechanical fellas. Good luck!
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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07/19/17 10:49 AM
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I just think it's hilarious that a snowdog marketing rep found this post on tman and replied to it, LOL.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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07/19/17 10:58 AM
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I just think it's hilarious that a snowdog marketing rep found this post on tman and replied to it, LOL. Yeah, especially when a lot of trap makers and suppliers don't bother to post..... Carry on.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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07/19/17 05:54 PM
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You really need to look at the practical usage on lakes, open field and smaller hills etc.
There's a dealer near me. I might have to look that up.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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07/20/17 02:06 AM
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Kudzu,privet, black berry and multi flora rose would have that wrapped up tight in no time. Bet deep powder snow be a no go as well.
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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07/20/17 03:39 AM
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There made in Russia. Most of their pictures show them on the ice and grass , don't think their that much of a snow machine . Like to see it do some high marking in the powder, in the mountains !  Grandma might like it, to go to the mailbox .
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Re: Snowdog snow machine
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07/20/17 09:40 AM
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Sergei claims this thing is so agile that it "can go where a snowmobile can't...
I looked at the website and watched a couple of the videos.
That statement appears to be unadulterated BS, wishful thinking and marketing hype! Wanna bet?
Pete I watched a few videos. Great for a cabin owner who wants to ride lakes and groomed trails. Goes where a snow machine can't .....I don't think so! It would take me three days to check my line I could do in 4-5 hours. I wonder how many times those handle bars smash your knees going over rough terrain? They talk about running it through 4 foot powder...would like to see that video. Also state where it's better than the skandics or tundras in deep powder.....wow would like to see that demo. Haven't looked up a price for the unit but I'm sure it's not cheap. Yeah it will cost less than a new snow machine but let's see it on some side hills. Places where I go with the tundra that thing would roll down a side hill for hundreds of yards and keep gaining momentum. Probably has uses for a lot of people but on a trap line good luck!
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