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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5924469
06/10/17 08:55 PM
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I think they are advertised as a 6.5 inch spread as well if I'm not mistaken.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5924613
06/10/17 11:41 PM
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A person never knows until there on your bench with a tape measure !




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5924686
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Do not want to hi-jack this post---but what are best release methods for DLS. Have used the board and release pole but looking for something better.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: luvcanids] #5924796
06/11/17 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: luvcanids
Do not want to hi-jack this post---but what are best release methods for DLS. Have used the board and release pole but looking for something better.


That is a good question as I think it is a bit harder than when using a coil spring???

Mac



Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5925112
06/11/17 07:05 PM
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I find it easier to get something out of a dbls than I do a coil more to get ahold of


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5925566
06/12/17 07:42 AM
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Red mt---alive??

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5926277
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I have to agree with Red on this one. I run lots of long springs in exposed sets for cats. If you get a spring in each hand and compress them and then bend the whole spring down away from the jaws it is easy to release quickly. There is a lot more to hold onto than on a coil spring trap.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5926496
06/13/17 08:11 AM
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And what is the cat doing when you have a spring in each hand and bending it away from the jaws to release the cat.




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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5927158
06/13/17 08:35 PM
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FYI ---> INSIDE jaw spreads (i have these traps)

#4 sleepy creek long - 5 & 11/16"
#3 sleepy long offset - 5 & 1/4" big
#4 bridger long -----5 & 5/8"
#3 vic long ------ 5"


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: the Blak Spot] #5927166
06/13/17 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: the Blak Spot
FYI ---> INSIDE jaw spreads (i have these traps)

#4 sleepy creek long - 5 & 11/16"
#3 sleepy long offset - 5 & 1/4" big
#4 bridger long -----5 & 5/8"
#3 vic long ------ 5"



What year are your Victor #3 double long springs? mine are 5 1/8"

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5927170
06/13/17 08:44 PM
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Not sure i have had them bout 15-20 yrs. my tape could be off a smidge


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: the Blak Spot] #5927171
06/13/17 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: the Blak Spot
Not sure i have had them bout 15-20 yrs. my tape could be off a smidge


Just wondering because Arkansas you have to have offset or rubber jaws if over 5" on land and I would love to use regular jaw #3's if I could find them

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: luvcanids] #5927295
06/13/17 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: luvcanids
And what is the cat doing when you have a spring in each hand and bending it away from the jaws to release the cat.



Laying on the ground bc your standing on the release pole. I find some traps easier to release cats out of. I think longs are the hardest. Jiffy setters are nice for removing a catch. Because for me I have to "brake" the trap open by setting it across my knee. When a catch is made its harder to do this. That's were the setters shine imo no matter if it's a long or coil.
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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: luvcanids] #5927578
06/14/17 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: luvcanids
Do not want to hi-jack this post---but what are best release methods for DLS. Have used the board and release pole but looking for something better.


I have released a number of wolves from #4 SC DLS without a hitch. In my experience I can easily squeeze enough with a hand on each spring to release their large paw. You do not have to open the trap all the way like setting it.

Although I am very fond of, and own a dozen, SC 4.5 dls, I have not released a live animal. I have to use a setter to get out a dead one.

With one exception so far, wolves have been easier in to release live than an otter in any foothold.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5927895
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How are you holding the live animal so that you can use both hands on the long springs.

Do understand the live release of an otter, I would rather do anything else then release a buck otter. It is my opinion that most animals want to bite you an otters wants to eat you.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5927911
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A tap on the nose will stun an animal long enough to release them,with the exception being a wolf.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: luvcanids] #5944445
07/06/17 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: luvcanids
Ringbill,
How are you holding the live animal so that you can use both hands on the long springs.


I stand on the catchpole. I go 250 though. Like I said, you don't have to squeeze them far. Wolves are generally pretty docile in a catch pole. Plus you have time on your side. Cats you don't have time and it may take a few tries. Better to try for 15 sec three times than hold a cat down for 30 seconds trying to release it in my experience.

My 120 lb daughter held this one down. She tried squeezing the springs while I held the pole but wasn't strong enough.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #5944642
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Man! Wish I could walk up on that in one of my traps!


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Ringbill5196] #5944648
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Originally Posted By: Ringbill5196
Originally Posted By: luvcanids
Ringbill,
How are you holding the live animal so that you can use both hands on the long springs.


I stand on the catchpole. I go 250 though. Like I said, you don't have to squeeze them far. Wolves are generally pretty docile in a catch pole. Plus you have time on your side. Cats you don't have time and it may take a few tries. Better to try for 15 sec three times than hold a cat down for 30 seconds trying to release it in my experience.

My 120 lb daughter held this one down. She tried squeezing the springs while I held the pole but wasn't strong enough.


Bless her heart, she is out there trying, gotta love that!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Ditchdiver] #5946132
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You will. They spread further every year. Last year I made it without one in the trap. I have been getting 2-4 a year. Backing off #4 dls and into 3s unless an exposed set to cut down. Also crowding the hold in most dirtholes helps quite a bit. Seems urine posts and hay sets are harder to prevent the big dog from getting in paw first. It is a pleasure and a curse to catch one.

IMO BIG double longs in a hay set on drags in 30 below is a wonderful combination. I may hammer a spot for my center swivel in but most often just bed in some hay and shake/cut a small amount of chaff over to break it up. I most often use a duck carcass of a chicken carcass, but will sometimes cut dice sized chunks of beaver and mix in in.

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