Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: The Beav]
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Stick to using foot holds. Your options are so much better then using a cage trap. x2
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: LeviSS]
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11/03/17 07:22 PM
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In Kansas, foothold traps are very legal. Here is the bobcat pelt tagging report from a past year, showing how many cats were taken with various trapping methods. That particular year, a little under half as many cats were taken in cages (862), as were taken with foothold traps (1799). Some trappers evidently prefer using cages for bobcats, even when they don't have to. I generally use footholds, but will also use a cage or two sometimes. METHOD Number of Number of Percent of Furharvesters* Bobcats taken Bobcats taken TRAPPING (1) Foothold Trap 469 1799 37.4% (2) Body Grip Trap 142 336 7.0% (3) Cage Trap 288 862 17.9% (4) Snare 192 665 13.8% SUB-TOTAL 1091 3662 76.1% The table above doesn't show correctly, but hopefully you get the idea. http://ksoutdoors.com/Hunting/Furharvesting(Click on the above link, then click on Research Reports)
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: LeviSS]
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11/03/17 09:40 PM
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Well........being from a cage trapping state I will throw in my two bits.
As stated cages can be very selective, kick out the ones you don't want, keep the ones you do.
A lot easier and safer trapping trailheads, close to houses, without making the headlines of the daily newspaper.
And will take ALOT of weather.
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: coloradocat]
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Well........being from a cage trapping state I will throw in my two bits.
As stated cages can be very selective, kick out the ones you don't want, keep the ones you do.
A lot easier and safer trapping trailheads, close to houses, without making the headlines of the daily newspaper.
And will take ALOT of weather. Just make sure you can get back into your truck after you kick them out of your traps.
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: LeviSS]
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11/03/17 10:28 PM
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Here in nebr I can use any trap for cats, but I prefer cages. I don’t like using footholds during cat season because I have nothing but problems with frozen ground. Mine are 4’ long and big cats will go in them. I will get a lot of coon, possum and skunk that I have to thin out but the cats will show up first eventually. Even in nebr I can pick up 6 to 12 a yr, but I also run 7 doz cages. If you know where the cat is, set 2 or 3 and you’ll have him in a week or two.
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: coloradocat]
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11/04/17 06:03 AM
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Well........being from a cage trapping state I will throw in my two...
And will take ALOT of weather. Few freeze ups is probably what you're talking about. Though I suppose fresh snow could keep the door from closing. Rain will wash away lure.
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
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Worse thing a coon does to your bobcat cage is ruin your flagging inside the cage. Coon in your nondragged foothold ruins your entire set location. Should flagging really go INside the cage?
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: The Beav]
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I'm betting CRs will kill every cat you catch. I've killed cats just by using a choke stick to remove them from foot holds. They go down real easy. Interesting. I've not heard of a CR killing a bobcat. I figured they'd be there waiting, go cut the cable, and let 'em go. That's supposed to be a major advantage of a CR over a snare. I knew ya can't be too careful with a cat in a release pole though.
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: LeviSS]
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11/04/17 06:17 AM
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Got several buddies around here that use cages on cats, very successful on them, and footholds are legal here. One will literally run a trailer load of cages on several farms and only thing he carried is bottle of bobcat pee for remakes. One of them is also an older fellow and doesn't have the hand strength he used to, it's way easier for him to set cages than strong footholds, he took 18 cats a couple seasons ago all in cages. Cages are just another tool but in harsh late winter here when cats are at their best cages are extremely effective and sometimes about the only thing functional aside from snares. Footholds are great but don't snub a cage just because footholds are legal too. I'm convinced cages are an awesome cat tool here in Midwest. You have to trap for cats targeting them on location and use the best tool to do that. Also here we can't hang a feather close to a foothold, but it is legal in back of a cage. Jim
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: AJE]
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Worse thing a coon does to your bobcat cage is ruin your flagging inside the cage. Coon in your nondragged foothold ruins your entire set location. Should flagging really go INside the cage? Yes it can go inside the cage. Well........being from a cage trapping state I will throw in my two...
And will take ALOT of weather. Few freeze ups is probably what you're talking about. Though I suppose fresh snow could keep the door from closing. Rain will wash away lure. Not if you know what your doing!!!! Obviously another person who's never done it, but knows everything about it!!
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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11/04/17 11:26 AM
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Re: Do you use cages if foot holds are legal - bobcats
[Re: AJE]
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11/04/17 02:04 PM
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Well........being from a cage trapping state I will throw in my two...
And will take ALOT of weather. a Few freeze ups is probably what you're talking about. Though I suppose fresh snow could keep the door from closing. Rain will wash away lure. Just stack any kind of brush or natural covering on top and this will alleviate any problems with snow, rain, or freezing conditions putting your cage trap out of working condition. This alone makes them better than legholds for some purposes. Also helps conceal your traps very well, almost impossible for anyone else to find.
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