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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Jeremiah Wood] #6078347
12/08/17 07:37 AM
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Jwood, good video.

The year the state made the boxes a law the fisher catch was around 165 +/- and the marten catch about the same.
Now consider this, my fur buyer has records of many years buying 1500 fisher.
The boxes are not efficient and are the pipe dream of a non long liner.

I along with several friends had always dreamed that when we retired from regular work that we could run long lines much like we did in the 70s and 80s.
Well you can, but not efficiently for fisher or marten. The state has ended that.

I have caught a lot of very large fisher in 120s in boxes. The 120 or 5x5 in boxes work very well and are perhaps my favorite fisher sets, but are now illegal.
I would suggest that the 120 or 5x5 set in a box, keeping the trap back a decent distance from he opening would be an acceptable set up for avoiding the non threatened Lynx.
An adult Lynx only has a arm so long. It seems plausible that it would be quite difficult for a Lynx to get into a trap that was recessed say 20" into a box, even with a opening slightly larger than a trap. This type of a box has probably not been tested because it would be too efficient and no one from the MTA has suggested it.



Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6078359
12/08/17 07:56 AM
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sound good ,sounds like you need to make one and bring it to local an state meeting an see what can be done to test it

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6078466
12/08/17 10:05 AM
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Mac; Not only was that suggested but it was put forth as a motion which carried. Then was ignored by the mta. Just to keep the record straight. This and many other suggestions were made by trappers that actually trap, to no avail. Don't ever make the mistake of expecting any degree of logic pertaining to the Lynx debacle.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: WBG] #6078474
12/08/17 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: WBG
Mac; Not only was that suggested but it was put forth as a motion which carried. Then was ignored by the mta. Just to keep the record straight. This and many other suggestions were made by trappers that actually trap, to no avail. Don't ever make the mistake of expecting any degree of logic pertaining to the Lynx debacle.


I guess they cave in order to appease the anti's.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6079235
12/08/17 11:17 PM
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It's pretty bad when we're only allowed 10 fisher a year and can't even come close to that harvest individually with dozens of traps out. I have trapped years with only 20 or so traps out because I was just starting and still in school but was able to fill all my tags. Too bad too because fisher are one of the only profitable furbearers left in this state.

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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080140
12/09/17 08:49 PM
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Checked a few "fisher exclusion devices" today. Had three that made a million tracks but would not go in the 4" hole also had 1 walk all around & on a side entrance box, but would not go in.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: ebsurveyor] #6080209
12/09/17 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
Checked a few "fisher exclusion devices" today. Had three that made a million tracks but would not go in the 4" hole also had 1 walk all around & on a side entrance box, but would not go in.


Are you trapping the western mountains or are you up north?

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: ebsurveyor] #6080220
12/09/17 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
That's got to be a good feeling to see that tail hanging out, kind of like a canine jumping in a snare but in a different way. Nice trapping

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080225
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I have a cabin @ Portage Lake and trap west to I see this:



250 mile run today and I even got one:


Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080230
12/09/17 09:50 PM
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Thats a big area your trapping.


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080232
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Lol! I live two miles from the New Brunswick border. Take I 95 to its terminus and that's where I'm at.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: PineDoggin] #6080234
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Originally Posted By: PineDoggin
Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
That's got to be a good feeling to see that tail hanging out, kind of like a canine jumping in a snare but in a different way. Nice trapping



Thanks, the big ones don't fit so good.


Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080238
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Nice red.Could have been a flyer.

Last edited by Boco; 12/09/17 09:55 PM.

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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: ebsurveyor] #6080239
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
Thanks, the big ones don't fit so good.



Got to admire that kind of determination!

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Bruce T] #6080240
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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Thats a big area your trapping.


I only have 60-70 fisher exclusion boxes out. I skip over 20-30 miles where someone else is trapping. Had four fisher work the area around the box hard last night, but they would not go in.

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080245
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This lynxie walked the road for almost three miles.


Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: ebsurveyor] #6080248
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Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
This lynxie walked the road for almost three miles.


We should be able to trap lynx.


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Bruce T] #6080251
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Originally Posted By: Bruce T
Originally Posted By: ebsurveyor
This lynxie walked the road for almost three miles.


We should be able to trap lynx.


I saw an estimate where we had around a thousand in the state. What are we allowed, three incidental catches and they can shut us down?

Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: beaver trapper] #6080257
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Canada and Alaska are full of lynx.There is no logical reason why we can't also trap lynx.They are not endangered.


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Re: 2017/2018 Maine hunting/trapping thread [Re: Boco] #6080259
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Nice red.Could have been a flyer.


I've not gotten any flyers on the ground in boxes. Got plenty when we could set on poles here in Maine. Even got a few doubles:


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