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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: bctomcat] #6110443
01/02/18 04:24 PM
01/02/18 04:24 PM
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Central MN
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Originally Posted By: bctomcat
Originally Posted By: Hornytoad1
Any of you guys use a ice saw instead of a chain saw to cut threw the ice? I heard they work real well. So I ordered a Fish's Ice Saw today. www.icesaw.com
How do you get a hole open in order to use the saw????

Some are designed to be able to open their own hole. Others you spud a starter

Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: bctomcat] #6110449
01/02/18 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: bctomcat
Originally Posted By: Hornytoad1
Any of you guys use a ice saw instead of a chain saw to cut threw the ice? I heard they work real well. So I ordered a Fish's Ice Saw today. www.icesaw.com
How do you get a hole open in order to use the saw????
A Spud


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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110478
01/02/18 04:58 PM
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Throw away all that junk and do like Hutchy said and get a chainsaw,unless you want to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around all day instead of setting traps.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Boco] #6110498
01/02/18 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Throw away all that junk and do like Hutchy said and get a chainsaw,unless you want to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around all day instead of setting traps.
x2! I usually set 3 snare poles around every feed pile I can find or know of, plus any obvious or known trails in between. Just setting 4 different ponds that is a minimum of 12 different holes to cut through anywhere up to 30" of ice- I will stick with a stihl or jonsered myself.

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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110549
01/02/18 05:48 PM
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If you have 6 inches or less of ice I would just use a spud. I don't break out the chainsaw for thin ice.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110593
01/02/18 06:17 PM
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I can swing an axe better then a spud....I have a spud, it's heavy and can't get the job done for me like an axe...jmo
If your remote on foot like me, I'm not dragging a spud for a mile....chainsaw sounds best if your walk is close or on a snow machine.
Or wait till spring


Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110594
01/02/18 06:21 PM
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Central MN
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I pull a sled with a spud, axe, trap setter, 330 or 2, 1.5 coils, 1 longs, 110, 120, mink lure, wire, pliers, snares, and depending on the area, 220 and bobcat box. Doesn't take much more to pull and I'm ready for most things I find on the location.

Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110602
01/02/18 06:27 PM
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Axe is what i use all year chainsaw can stay home if youre on active runs it never gets to thick

Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Boco] #6110618
01/02/18 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Throw away all that junk and do like Hutchy said and get a chainsaw,unless you want to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) around all day instead of setting traps.


When Boco Is All Jacked-Up On Poutine and Tim Horton's Coffee, He Doesn't Need An Axe, Spud, Or Chainsaw.

He Just Tears Open The Ice With His Bare Hands !! laugh

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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110634
01/02/18 06:57 PM
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6" of ice was a month ago , it's 12" to 18" now . laugh




Simplify your methods to the point of perfection.

Become fast,efficient & effective.

The real "SECRET" to successful trapping.

KEEP IT SIMPLE!

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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: zammerak] #6110680
01/02/18 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: zammerak
. We use an auger to cut holes in the corners and saw the rest out.
Now you have two additional tools to haul around with your chainsaw while trapping. Doesn't make sense to me.


The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110691
01/02/18 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: Finster
Is not nearly as fun as it says in the brochure. cry

The chances are very good that I'll catch my first under ice beaver in the next few days. In Alabama! Huh?


Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110765
01/02/18 08:29 PM
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The fish's ice saw cuts through ice very well. I've used it up to 20" of ice. I've used it for beaver and now the spear shack hole. I tried my chainsaw last year and didn't care for it nearly as much as the ice saw.

You CAN use the ice saw to start the pilot hole...but the blade is somewhat flexible so I've always used a spud to start the hole. If you twist the handle when cutting, your cut will angle quite abit. So making a football shaped hole is pretty easy.

Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110858
01/02/18 09:18 PM
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to be fair, the last few years a chainsaw hasn't been needed. We have had lousy weather up here. No cold, thin ice. And close to the house, you could kick a hole open with your foot. I used the chainsaw for a few baited sets though. This year though, it has literally been colder than twenty below for three weeks now. Ice is already thicker than it was all last year. I foresee some chainsawing needed!

Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Josh Weizenegger] #6110892
01/02/18 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: MN RATTER
Axe is what i use all year chainsaw can stay home if youre on active runs it never gets to thick



one problem is that with an axe you get splashed when you break through the bottom of the ice. That SUX !

Also, in over 40 some years of looking...I have NEVER found a beaver run...where the ice was thin.


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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: white17] #6110920
01/02/18 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: white17
Originally Posted By: MN RATTER
Axe is what i use all year chainsaw can stay home if youre on active runs it never gets to thick



one problem is that with an axe you get splashed when you break through the bottom of the ice. That SUX !

Also, in over 40 some years of looking...I have NEVER found a beaver run...where the ice was thin.


I don't think the frozen levels of overflow are prevented from freezing by beaver activity under the initial layer of ice. frown


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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110934
01/02/18 10:11 PM
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Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one.
Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house.

Last edited by Boco; 01/02/18 10:13 PM.

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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Finster] #6110940
01/02/18 10:14 PM
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Boco "Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between" that is about the time I would be finding another winter activity and planning a spring beaver trapping trip!

Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Boco] #6110942
01/02/18 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one.
Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house.


White has been searching for that next house for 40 years maybe it will be the next one.


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Re: Beaver under the ice [Re: Boco] #6110948
01/02/18 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Some places you get three layers of ice a few feet thick with water in between.Too messy to set those,leave for seed and go to the next one.
Some just thick shell ice and no water-same thing-leave em and go to the next house.
Problem is when every house is like that. Long ago I would use an ax for the first 12” or so then finish with a chisel. Now it’s chainsaw with no bar oil.

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