Yup. Solid logic.

I think if you are getting pullouts, you may have weaker spring traps. Maybe a trade off for easier setting. Just a guess.

My old grizz getters are terrible hard to set, but never a Coon pullout. A few twisted off possum paws but that’s a different story.

I cable to trees a lot. I pogo stake occasionally until the ground freezes.

Weak springs, big predator/dog, or a Johnnie Sneakum. No other possibilities.

You do see toe catches on rare occasions. I can't explain it for sure but suspect it could be possibly due to the foot sliding some after a catch or maybe it was a double foot catch and one slid out past the other or something pulled the coon part way out, maybe they leveraged out a little or even jumped off a steep bank and hit the end extra hard???

If you catch above the wrist you are not going to loose the coon due to leverage with out leaving something. Pad or toe catch spring against a tree or rock yes. I can show how the toe catches happen with pull only systems but I am not going to get into it here. Too much writing and easier to show. With push pull systems toe catches happen more due to too much bait in the trap.

This. Ron made me a believer. 100%. And I hate coons. Ron has spent years and years on this and it shows.

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I have always used a cable wrapped around a small tree or bush near the water. The key is to wrap around enough times so that there is very little slack left in the cable, just enough to secure to the trap chain, and clear any debris out of the way. Just like staking to the ground except faster and easier.

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In 2016, when I was using wool beneath the triggers, i had lots of wool pulled out with the bait gone. Some was due to mice as there were mouse droppings in the DPs. But some had to be due to coon snagging the soft wool. This last fall, after etalking to Ron, I switched to stiff polyfill/ fiberfill and very small bits of bait until it became time to use paste baits. Coon, possums, skunks and mice couldn’t get that stiffer material out without tripping the traps. The fiberfill pulled the trigger as they pulled the fill and I caught what ever worked the trap.

I’ve had pullouts when cabling/wiring to trees. I now use 24-inch T-bars or the standard Berkshires on 12-inches of cable. Sometimes I just wire to a root, or fence post. But I do check within 24-hours and often closer to 16 and I think this helps.

Is this different from the polyfill guys put under trap pans got a brand name or picture ? I had a few places the coons were cleaning out the dp's duke and fb1's. I'd ended up putting a 1 1/2 in to get them.
Thanks Justin

I buy my polyfil and fiberfill from a fabric store. The polyfil is for pillows whereas the stiffer fiberfill is for cushions for benches. Poly usually comes in a pillow like bag and it’s soft. The fiberfill is in various thicknesses starting at 1/2-inch and going up to about 2-inches. It also comes as a 24-inch roll and you can buy it by length and cut it off roughly into 1x1 squares to be placed under the DP trigger.

Think of poly that’s been sprayed with ironing starch. It’s stiffer and pulls the trigger up when the critter snags it while trying to lift out small baits like cereal, corn, crushed candy, or small piece pet foods.

Thank you sir
Justin

My thoughts. I like pull only triggers. These triggers must be the round washer type, not the peg style. I like wool packed under trigger , so that you have to push trigger down to latch. With a round trigger and cat food "pebbles"you have a problem if you set before you put bait in. Put bait in first and work trigger to flip bits around, then set. The pebbles can bind the trigger. If wool is packed around the trigger it minimizes this. Jonesy knows his stuff better than me