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#6142258 - 01/30/18 12:38 PM Live Trapping Problem Fox
Hobbs Offline
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Registered: 01/10/18
Posts: 110
Loc: Wyoming
I asked this same question in trapping only but thought I would hedge my bet and ask here as well. Any help would be awesome.

I need some help. I recently got contacted by a friend to remove a problem red fox from his property, the issue I am running into is he has quite a few barn cats as well as chickens, geese. Among other critters. I think with the variety of non-target animals that he has my best bet is going to be a live trap so I don't injure any of his critters. My question is what size of live trap works best for Red Fox (in Wyoming, not sure if that makes a difference)? And what are some tips and tricks for live trapping that I could employ on a Red Fox? Pictures would be welcome too if anyone has any. Thanks for all the help and the great reading on this site.
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#6142814 - 01/30/18 08:54 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
Ron Scheller Offline
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Registered: 01/19/07
Posts: 1162
Loc: Mt. Olive, IL
In most cases, I talk the people into leaving the foxes alone, as they typically move in town to have litters under sheds and decks to escape coyote predation. Usually gone in 8 to 10 weeks. However, in the cases where the foxes are killing chickens or causing the house to smell so bad you gag, I'll move them. Always had the best luck with older cages with open wire (larger seems better, such as 1x2). I catch pups or adults in anything 10x12x30 or larger. Rarely needed to use a 15x15 cage to catch foxes. Also, I do NOT brush the traps. Just like fur trapping, foxes like to be in a very open area, not confined or in places where they can't see their surroundings. I've used everything from hot dogs to Arby's curly fries.... the urban foxes seem to respond to anything edible. Not sure how the rural ones would respond. I'll include a couple pics, showing traps NOT covered with brush, and larger wire size.

One of 4 pups caught from under a large deck at a lake house.


Female fox that was living in a machine shed.
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#6143235 - 01/31/18 08:47 AM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Ron Scheller]
Hobbs Offline
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Registered: 01/10/18
Posts: 110
Loc: Wyoming
Thank you Ron, I appreciate the information. All I'm hoping to do with this fox is relocate it to a more suitable location, so this is good to know, especially about not brushing in traps. Just curious, if you were after a bobcat would you not brush in the trap or would you run the set up different for that? Thanks again
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#6143360 - 01/31/18 11:24 AM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7427
Loc: Central NC
Using a sweet bait will normally not attract cats...IME
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#6143494 - 01/31/18 01:56 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
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Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 958
Loc: West Michigan
IF possible slid the trap back and forth so the dirt will cover the wire or if the ground is to hard do it by hand. I also like to hang the bait so they can not just stretch out with out tripping the pan. JMO
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#6143694 - 01/31/18 05:44 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
Rebel Rider Offline
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Registered: 10/31/17
Posts: 118
Loc: Eastern Montana
I've caught coyotes in leg hold traps using marshmallows. (There was other bait but the traps hadn't been touched in a month until I added the marshmallows.) I'd assume fox might go for these and cats are less likely to go for them than other baits. (Some weird cats will go for them, which I found out the hard way when I caught one in a leg hold coon trap.)

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#6143719 - 01/31/18 06:03 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
Getting There Offline
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Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 958
Loc: West Michigan
Hobbs:
I forgot to tell you, make sure the trap does not rock or tip. IF the trap moves the fox will not go all the way in the trap. Fur trappers call it bedding the trap.
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#6143847 - 01/31/18 07:34 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Getting There]
traprjohn Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7427
Loc: Central NC
Originally Posted By: Getting There
IF possible slid the trap back and forth so the dirt will cover the wire or if the ground is to hard do it by hand. I also like to hang the bait so they can not just stretch out with out tripping the pan. JMO


ALWAYS do these things....I hang bait in a lil cup made from a water bottle bottom.
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#6151600 - 02/08/18 09:33 AM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
Hobbs Offline
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Registered: 01/10/18
Posts: 110
Loc: Wyoming
This is all great information. I fur trap as well so bedding a trap is ingrained in my thought process no matter what trap I set. Thanks again everyone.
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#6152212 - 02/08/18 08:45 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 3356
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
I like some of the ideas mentioned thus far.
What are some of the better ways to hang the bait, and do you put some bark or mossy type substance on top of the cage to help keep rain off the bait?
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#6152509 - 02/09/18 08:26 AM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
Paul Winkelmann Offline
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Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1238
Loc: mequon, wisconsin
The foxes I catch in cages are usually in subdivisions so I just toss my Wickenkamps down and bait with cans of
cat food. I've only caged a couple hundred.

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#6154082 - 02/10/18 08:44 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: Hobbs]
AJE Offline
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Registered: 01/22/16
Posts: 3356
Loc: WI - Wisconsin
Sounds like you have it figured out Paul.
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#6154109 - 02/10/18 09:03 PM Re: Live Trapping Problem Fox [Re: AJE]
traprjohn Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 7427
Loc: Central NC
Originally Posted By: AJE

What are some of the better ways to hang the bait,


in a cup made from a water bottle bottom or spray paint can cap........hung by s-shaped coat hanger wire about 2" from top and 2"-3" from rear

several holes punched into cup using a office hole punch....for scent flow.
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