I once heard there are some Hebrew genes in the native American people from ok

Danny you are spot on about past cultures traveling the world. Thor Heyerdahl built a reed ship and sailed from Peru,I think it was I 46 or 47. Something like 4000 miles in 100 days
Just makes a person wonder don't it

I'm a science guy that has to be convinced with empirical evidence. Show me any evidence at all (that vikings visited central america) that has been reported on and accepted in any mainstream archaeological or other scientific paper. Or any DNA evidence supporting a northern european component in the native gene pool. I pay attention to those kinds of things so that is why I felt bold enough to say it aint so.

(If you can find and cite anything I'll happily retract)!

BTW, Mixteco is the proper spelling for one of the many dialects still spoken in southern Mexico and Guatemala.

Incidentally, my son who's mother is from Mexico city has about 4% Mayan DNA according to a cheek swab we took a couple of years ago.

This may not be accepted by any "mainstream" archaeological or scientific papers, but the evidence of the artifacts and mummies speak for themselves. I don't know if it was Vikings, but there is a lot of evidence that suggests white-skinned bearded men occurred in the New World long before the Spaniards arrived. Long, but definitely worth the read.....

http://whiteindians.com/diffusionism/bearded-gods.html

Thanks for that Chancey. I put it in my favorites, will read the whole thing one day when I have the time!

There are so many "prehistoric" archeological ruins out there that go against the evolutionist's theory of history, it is amazing when they admit they cannot figure some ruins out. I enjoy reading about new ruins, it is fascinating what is still being discovered in this world. God only knows what really happened there.

I'll look at that when I have time Chancey, but you guys surely must know that there are lots of very imaginative amateur archaeologists that make many claims. Anybody remember "Piltdown man" the missing link? I have not seen any credible reports to support vikings getting that far south.

(I also don't believe in bigfoot).

I don't know if they did or not. If a boatful did it doesn't take much imagination to see why artifacts haven't been found. humid weather, centuries to deteriorate. Probably wouldn't be much evidence today. I say we don't know. Its very possible.

Guess it really doesn't matter what you believe in does it? What matters is truth.

Here's something to chew on. Could there have been humans inhabiting south and central america when the tectonic plates moved? If a person was looking for evidence of that, there are some things that fit.

Bernie, the tectonic plates are moving right now...they never stopped.

Did any of you mugs get to see the story of the 13,000 year old skeleton found in an underground cave in Yucatan? That story, and the surrounding story of ancient human migration to the americas was on PBS Nova last night. Fascinating stuff.

She was discovered in a water filled limestone cave call "Hoyo Negro". Apparently, she had fallen and broken a hip in the fall and drowned. Later, sea levels raised and the skeleton along with saber tooth tigers and ancient elephant species stayed protected over the millennia. She is the oldest and most complete set of skeletal remains ever discovered in the new world. Almost like forensic files as scientists revealed what they could find out about her through those bones.

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Well i figured i would jump in on the discussion cause i to love this stuff , my question on ancient travels comes to the Red Bird carvings in Ky. of Hebrew and Greek alphabet that archaeologist say were carved before the discovery of america.

That was a good read Chancey thanks for posting , i guess a person will have to make there own mind up on the ancient ways. it is very interesting hearing others opinions.

I've always been buggy about this stuff! I wanted to be an archeologist when I was a kid, but trapping , cars and girls got in the way. Looking back, I'm glad life went the way it did, or I would have ended up at some university somewhere, and those are all parts of it that I would have hated!

Good evening Gentlemen,

Thanks for posting on this thread! Glad to see others are interested in it as well. I too find this stuff fascinating because I think it raises a lot more questions that it answers. Mr. Steinmeyer, you brought up a really good point about the fresh water being caught up in ice during the last ice age. To me, that makes a lot of sense as to why those "pre-existing" caves were already in place when humans and megafauna decided to inhabit them. The fascinating thing about those cenotes and other cave systems is that it is crystal clear fresh water! I've had the pleasure of swimming in some of them.

But, so much of what we read and are taught claims that rising sea levels flooded the caves and passageways after the last glacial maximum. I don't know how rising sea levels (salt water) could affect fresh water within the cenotes and cave systems, but it is definitely some fat worth chewing on. Perhaps, sea water infiltrated underground caves near the coast, but a lot of what they are finding is very far inland.

I didn't get to watch the show about Hoyo Negro, but I do remember hearing about it several years ago. I think it caught the scientific community so off guard it took them 4 years to figure out a way to explain to the public. It makes me wonder if those pyramids could have been built by a race of people inhabiting the Yucatan at the same time the caves were flooded, rather than the people we consider "Mayan" now? Serious question......Why would whoever built those structures intentionally bury them? They must have been trying to preserve something or some message from something that they knew was coming? Have any of ya'll ever seen some of the eccentric flint found in those pyramids and caves? Its the most amazing knapping work ever seen. They say we have no idea how long it took to produce because no one alive today can duplicate it.

Logger coffey, thank you for mentioning the Red Bird Carvings. I had never heard of them and I think it is astonishing! If one wants to do some researching, there is evidence that some of the early Hebrew tribes of Israel (interesting to figure out which tribe!) ventured up northwest along the Mediterranean and possibly co-mingled/co-habitated with the Phonoecians. If true, that sure sheds some light on why the Pre-columbian "Mayans" knew about circumcision.

Absolutely amazing stuff to think about! I agree with Fl Cracker in Alaska, Only God really knows how and when it all went down!

I’m a science guy too. What do think about the Kensington stone? Is it a hoax?

I read once that the Kensington stone was a testament to Scandinavian frontier humor. Ya shor ya betcha.

But seriously, I believe that it has already been pretty well established to have been a hoax.

Researchers just found another mega city hidden under the jungle that they are attributing to the Aztecs! This one may have had as many buildings as Manhattan.

From the link below....."Everywhere you point the lidar instrument you find new stuff, and that is because we know so little about the archaeological universe in the Americas right now. Right now every textbook has to be rewritten, and two years from now they're going to have to be rewritten again," Fisher said.

"Many of these areas of the Americas that we see today that we think that we would classify as pristine tropical forests are really abandoned gardens."

https://www.sciencealert.com/angamuco-lost-world-city-purepecha-40-000-buildings-lidar-survey

It will be cool to see all the history of the earth and humans, when we go to heaven