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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6152606
02/09/18 12:13 PM
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The Harbor Freight Duke comparison is spot on. Some of what Harbor Freight sell works well and some not so much. Bridger # 2-4 coiled would have cost about $37 dollars more than the Duke #2 and the 3 cats lost in one day would have paid for the difference with dollars left over. I hear the Duke 1.5 is a good coon trap and there 330 is a decent body grip I wouldn't know. If I am looking to save a few bucks I look at what Bridger has to offer and have been pleased with the quality and longevity of there traps. It's your money so spend it how you want but don't loose dollars to save dimes.

Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6152626
02/09/18 12:51 PM
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I run 90 percent ko k9 extremes and fully mod #3 bridgers I bought a couple dozen duke 2 to use for cats and high theft areas I wish now that I'd just invested that money into more no BS traps foresure

Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6152634
02/09/18 01:03 PM
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Remember those Vic 2s with the inside out jaws?
When coyotes showed up here they ate the jaws for lunch.
I replaced the jaws with 1.75 round jaws, they've been good traps ever since.

I'd be hacked about the damage on the new supposed coyote traps too.





Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6152677
02/09/18 01:54 PM
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Derek and Mud and Steel,
I wish I knew how to help you. I've had good luck with mine. I'm sorry to hear that you've not been as fortunate. I also understand that you were simply asking about traps. Somehow or another the topic ran off the road. If they're not working for you, then it's time for a change. You can't be putting steel in the ground that you're not comfortable with. Best of luck the rest of the season.



Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153166
02/09/18 11:49 PM
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I'm in the "unhappy with the Duke #2 square jaw" camp

Second year using them, bought all of mine at the NTA convention in Kalamazoo in 2016. 2nd season using them along with my son's Bridger #2 dogless and my MB550s.

The Dukes are all going and more MBs are going to be purchased by me, my son likes the Bridgers best, he will buy more of them

Point is. Use what works best for you there are plenty of brands, styles, ect

Like every other product, people like something's aNd not others, some people get bad lots or good lots

Use what your confident with, promote what works for you and catch critters


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153203
02/10/18 12:56 AM
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As noted previously, bridgers/dogles s are my go to, but I haven't had the problems with the # 2 square jaw traps some of you have had after catching coyote,fox,cat or coon. I do modify them before using and perhaps that makes the difference. For the money i won't (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and moan

Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153322
02/10/18 08:08 AM
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Here is my experience with Duke #2 square jaw traps. I trap areas with a lot of grey fox. When I bought them I come contacted Mr. Duke about making them 2 coil. He said that would be fine and that they would hold coyotes without issue. We set them this season and had about 9 pull outs over about a 4 day period. It was crazy. We brought them home and 4 coiled them. Reset a few and had more pull outs. Total animals lost and educated was 12. I won't set them again and I am too honest to sell them to anyone else. I use other Duke traps without real issue, but I won't set another #2 sq jaw.

Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153409
02/10/18 10:18 AM
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Well you boys have overwhelming convinced me to get rid of all my #2 Dukes and buy something else. I guess your never to old to learn.

But wait a minute. There are a few of us on here that have no problems with the #2 Duke. So does that make us exceptional over the top trappers that can take any trap and make them preform? Or are we just lucky?
Maybe I'll have to re think the selling of my traps. But I do plan on buying some Dogless traps just not sure what kind yet.
Have a good day guys.


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153489
02/10/18 11:45 AM
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No doubt about it Beav. Your the man.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153516
02/10/18 12:22 PM
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Don't know about that. I just think I'm lucky.

Maybe Bill makes special order traps just for Me. LOL


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153539
02/10/18 12:46 PM
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Just can't see why I would continue to use a tool that doesn't perform as well as another for the same job. Just doesn't make sense if you can afford a better tool to not use the better tool


Never said they don't work, said they don't work as well that's just silly to keep using a tool that loses money for you


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153571
02/10/18 01:35 PM
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If anyone wants to know how THE BEAVE felt about the Duke #2 square jaw when it was first introduced

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads....nds#Post5497264

YES, he did get at least one directly from Mr Duke


#6153516 - Today at 10:22 AM Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel]
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Don't know about that. I just think I'm lucky.

Maybe Bill makes special order traps just for Me. LOL
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Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153581
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And for the purpose of full disclosure.....

I posted and believed when I bought my first 3 dozen at the 2016 convention and handled them and started using them that they were a very good trap, but time has changed my mind as the more time in the field has given me a side by side comparison to the other traps I use. And that includes my Duke #4 that I use on drags for coyotes as well as for drowner rigs for beaver. I really like the # 4 Dukes


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153611
02/10/18 02:27 PM
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And your point Is?


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153617
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So I would like to address the term PULL OUTS.

If my trap Is sprung In the bed. I don't consider that a pull out.

If my trap Is set off and pulled out of the bed. I don't consider that a pull out.

Now If there Is a huge tear up and I can see that the animal has been held for awhile. Then I "may" consider that a pull out. That animal may have been TOE caught. Is that the traps fault?

I'm willing to bet that a well tuned coyote sized trap making a good pad catch Is going to hold the coyote.

I'm not pointing fingers but there are lots of factors that play a part when a animal gets away. And It's not always the traps fault. The trapper has to recognize his part In the big picture.

If anyone wants to ship their #2 Dukes to me. I'll gladly pay for the shipping.


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153638
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Beav I saw it. Tracks, hair still between the jaws, set tore up, cat had pulled out. 3 different sets in one day. The traps Derek got, #2 duke, square jaw, factory 4 coil. Saw a couple in his vehicle bed with about an 1/8th inch gap between the jaws in the center. Derek told me coyotes did it and I believe him. All the coyotes he caught that day I went, were in his KO traps. Told me he switched all his cat sets to #2 dukes. They were not working on cats either though I didn't see where a cat had bent the jaws.

The problem is the trap. Not bedding or inability to read sign or trap cats. He put cat #25 on a stretcher Thursday in about 3 weeks of trapping them. I haven't talked to him since Thursday it may be more now. No record but a very respectable catch in my book.


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6153928
02/10/18 08:38 PM
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Good solid trap but needs a lil work in one area. A lug style offset would really benefit these

Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: danny clifton] #6154195
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
Beav I saw it. Tracks, hair still between the jaws, set tore up, cat had pulled out. 3 different sets in one day. The traps Derek got, #2 duke, square jaw, factory 4 coil. Saw a couple in his vehicle bed with about an 1/8th inch gap between the jaws in the center. Derek told me coyotes did it and I believe him. All the coyotes he caught that day I went, were in his KO traps. Told me he switched all his cat sets to #2 dukes. They were not working on cats either though I didn't see where a cat had bent the jaws.

The problem is the trap. Not bedding or inability to read sign or trap cats. He put cat #25 on a stretcher Thursday in about 3 weeks of trapping them. I haven't talked to him since Thursday it may be more now. No record but a very respectable catch in my book.


I believe you Danny.
I just haven't had any of those problems. And I've caught and held quit a few coyotes In them.


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6154198
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WolfDog you need a debris gap before you start thinking about making the trap offset. Adding lugs to a trap with out a debris gap will even leave a bigger gap If It gets clogged up.


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Re: Duke #2 square jaw 4 coil traps [Re: Mud & Steel] #6154363
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So those that are having problems with the Duke #2 square jaws what do you figure Is the problem?


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