Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/12/18 01:19 PM
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Found some first of winter species feeding yesterday afternoon during a freezing rain not far from the lake. Their numbers are low this year at my traditional sighting location near home. How many species can you birders find, and can you name them? Jonathan 
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
[Re: Jonathan]
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02/12/18 01:29 PM
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I think I see three. Horned lark Lark sparrow Snow bunting
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/12/18 10:48 PM
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You guys did pretty well. The two birds to the left in the first photo are Snow Buntings Here is a close-up of a Lapland Longspur (left) and a Horned Lark.  Jonathan
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/12/18 10:52 PM
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We get snow buntings and horned larks here. The snow buntings often fly in a loose gaggle of maybe 50 birds, especially when snowing and blowing. Horned larks also hang along the shoulder of the road after the grader scrapes it clean.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/12/18 11:15 PM
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Coonlove, Thank you for your comments. The same is true. Today at the location I worked yesterday, a pair of Red-tailed Hawks was preying on the Horned Larks picking gravel on the shoulder of the road. Jonathan  Video https://flic.kr/p/23doJny
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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Wish my head could swivel around backwards like that.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/13/18 05:02 PM
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If I recall, the all white ones are male and the females and juveniles are mottled. I have seen some heavily mottled, some barely mottled and some white as a snowbank.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/13/18 06:07 PM
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I haven't been out and about much this winter to spot any Snowys, but my daughter has seen some. We get lots of the L. Longspurs with the Snow Buntings too, you just have to look close. You will find the H. Larks in most open areas like fields, especially those that have a lot of dirt showing through the snow. They are year around in most of the farmland south of me.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 12:07 AM
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Les, That doesn't look like a woodpecker, unless it was since you saw it as "a bird in hand". The bill appears too long and narrow to be a woodpecker. Any chance it might be a shorebird?
Jonathan
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 12:20 AM
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I don't know my starlings I guess. I found it dead in the coop, and have since shored up the holes in the exterior. I wondered if it was a starling though. These birds wont stand for a photo shoot, and fly away from suet at the sign of a shadow in a window. Very messy too.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 12:21 AM
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That bird layed in the back of my pickup for a month as I was to attempt to get a positive ID. Starlings aren't protected here either, not that I would shoot in town, lol. People don't like them, I hear .
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 12:24 AM
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The beak seems long and narrow for a starling. I just googled some pics, and some had different colored, shorter, thicker beaks . There are similarities though.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 01:08 AM
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Les, your chicken coop freeloader is absolutely a Starling. A nastier, filthier bird doesn't exist.....oh wait.....yes they do....CHICKENS!!! But at least they (chickens) pop out eggs, as well as taste good, sorta like, well......CHICKEN!! I had a pet Red fox as a kid. It ate about anything I could catch/shoot for it, except it would not eat a Starling.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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So....my chicken coop is a starling trap. I had about 2 dozen of them in there with the chickens one day when it was real cold. The key would be to shut up the holes after they are in there, and somehow go in there with a tennis racket. Pretty tight quarters with 10 chickens in there and an 8x8 fish house chicken coop with a 7' ceiling. Probably need to lock a cat in there with them .
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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It's funny, but here at my place I don't see Starlings at all during the winter, yet 2 miles away in town, they are all over the place. I usually start seeing them in late March when the darn things start house hunting and tend to spend a lot of time paying attention to my various birdhouses. I generally blast them. I think if I went off to the west 3-4 miles I'd see them at all the farms too, especially any with stock. Around these parts, Starlings are "people birds" that you don't see off in the wilder sections of woods.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 01:34 AM
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I never saw them until I was leaving beaver fleshing tailings from frost scraping in the snow around the boards. Every once in a while you'll find one dead, and I'm not sure why. They love coon fat.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 01:35 AM
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I need a decent air rifle for in town here.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 12:18 PM
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Sharon and J.Morse know what critters are attracted to chicken coops, and Starlings are big time visitors. There is never a shortage seeing numbers of them once they find a steady food source, if you live in town or the country. I live in a rural area with large dairy farms nearby. I stopped at one yesterday and saw a few zipping around the barn yard where they were hauling silage. Jonathan 
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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02/14/18 02:51 PM
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Les, as kids we would crawl up into the haymow at night and shine a strong flashlight at the pigeons. This would blind them causing them to fall where we would catch them. Things would go smoothly until the starlings started to bombard us! The lights would blind them too and it was like getting hit by a kamikaze! Maybe you could try this in your coop, I would think it would be alot easier than a tennis racket.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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I imagine a fella could trap the starlings similar to how pigeons are trapped .
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Starlings are unprotected here, I believe.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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03/06/18 12:56 PM
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Shoot on site here, invasive species. Starlings & English sparrows.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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03/07/18 08:53 PM
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I'm afraid the robins will not be here this season... We got dumped on with deep snow, and 25degrees today... doing the Evening chores two Big Swans flew just over my head and the Chicken Coop.
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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03/07/18 11:05 PM
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330, The large flocks of migratory Tundra Swans and White-fronted Geese near me left for the far north over a week ago.
Jonathan
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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Im glad Im not seeing any robins or other spring type birdies now. The Juncos are having such a hard time here ....I have been broadcasting millet all over the side porch of my cabin for them....and they are camped out under my stairs day after day . The ones who love suet are all over the cages I fill and wait for me ,sometimes inches away, waiting and watching me as I refill them. They fly onto the cages as I pull them up and secure the cages on the tree trunks. They don't even wait for me to finish securing them on the hooks . I had a Flicker knocking on the cabin siding early this morning as he waited for me. I call him Uzi
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Pretty sure it is not a starling, bill is to long. I also think it is some kind of shore/water bird. How big is it? About like a black bird. Odd thing is the long thin bill, otherwise has starling coloration .
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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Jonathan and 330 Trapper,
I've never seen anything like what went on with the robin migration this year. We saw robins bunched together in what looked like the 10s of thousands down here. They totally overwhelmed the woods! Some evenings, they would fly over the house for 30 minutes at a time in huge flocks! I saw several yesterday, but the huge waves went through about 2-3 weeks ago. We always see robins in central Texas, but I talked to the old timers around here at the coffee shops and none of them have ever seen that many robins coming through around here. Seems migration patterns may be changing. Chancey
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Re: Winter "Snowbird" Species
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Pretty sure it is not a starling, bill is to long. I also think it is some kind of shore/water bird. How big is it? Everything about that bird screams Starling but the long bill. Many years ago I caught a Starling with a abnormally long bill and even have a picture somewheres with a tape measure beside it. So I know it can happen. Nothing makes my blood boil like a starling, I am glad most folks try to irradicate them.
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03/10/18 01:06 PM
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Pretty sure it is not a starling, bill is to long. I also think it is some kind of shore/water bird. How big is it? Everything about that bird screams Starling but the long bill. Many years ago I caught a Starling with a abnormally long bill and even have a picture somewheres with a tape measure beside it. So I know it can happen. Nothing makes my blood boil like a starling, I am glad most folks try to irradicate them. The whole flock is like that. I first encountered them a couple winters ago, in 10 below plus conditions when I was frost scraping beaver, and the scrapings landed on the snow outside a window of my fur shed. They would be there every day, and fly at the slightest disturbance. Very wary birds . I had found one dead outside the picture window...same beak. I wouldn't have thought they could fly fast enough to break a neck on the window.
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