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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Trapper7] #6158777
02/15/18 01:40 PM
02/15/18 01:40 PM
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[/quote] Of course, Hollywooders and people with the common sense of a field mouse, will tell you these movies and society today has no bearing on these shootings. This is mostly correct except there is always the possibility of that one person who associates with something in the movie that motivates him. America is on a slippery slope and unless we make some drastic changes, things are only going to get worse. [/quote]


Please do not disparage the field mouse, they show far more common sense than the liberal elites do!

I do agree that Hollywood through the glorification of the thug lifestyle bares a lot of responsibility for the behavior of a lot of people, so many people today cannot think or do for themselves, they follow morons on Twitter and FaceBook and think everything they say or do is some sort of gospel. Social Media is pure evil and takes the human out of humanity, kids and young adults today do not know what real friends are nor do they know how to be a real friend.


Mark Skokan, Buffalo MN.

MTA and NTA Member.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: dublelung] #6158794
02/15/18 02:08 PM
02/15/18 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: dublelung
Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Not sure about this case , but the common denominator in all these nut job shootings is prescribed psychotropic meds


Little Johnny has issues

He is taken to a Dr.

The doctor is trained to diagnose and places little Johnny in one of many categories. ( schizophrenia, bipolar, depression , anxiety, etc )

The doctor must label little Johnny or he cannot prescribe any medication

The doctor repeats this process with thousands of patients annually making an exceptional living

The truth is that all little Johnny needed was a swift kick in the a zzzzz now and then


That's the truth!
Some of you pansies blaming the AR is laughable. You're probably the same ones who put your kid's nose in the corner instead of whipping his little @ss when he get's out of line.


^^^^I love these two forum members analogy of the now generation!

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158812
02/15/18 02:28 PM
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For those that demand we ban or severely limit the ability of law abiding citizens to own a particular firearm (AR-15) because, in their view they are just too dangerous. Let us have a coherent conversation. Does the name, Seung-Hui Cho ring a bell? Murdered 32 at Virginia Tech (4-16-2007) with 2 handguns.. So do those of you that dont like black rifles want to include handguns? If not, what is your justification to arrive with that conclusion? Help me wrap my head around that logic. Please enlighten all of us....

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Teallbrook] #6158817
02/15/18 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Teallbrook
We had cops in my High School and they did absolutely nothing.


Were there any mass shootings?

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: danvee] #6158834
02/15/18 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: danvee
Part of the problem is what kids are exposed to now on TV and videos a good read on desensitization is Lt. Col. Dave Grossmans book "on Killing" The military figured out how to get soldiers to get over the human instinct not to take a human life. With the Rambo stuff on TV and the video games kids are getting there heads really messed up. Throw in a broken home, some drugs and being bullied and it is a recipe that we see too much of. The gun is just a tool that is to often used and blamed in a sick society. I don't think or ever will think that gun control is the answer I do think it would be a good law however to make sure that if you do own guns that they have to be secured. I think Canada has a law that requires guns when not in use to be secured in a safe, it would not be a cure all. I do know that a lot of accidental shootings are caused by curious kids grabbing a gun stuffed under a mattress or shoved in a closet. Also a lot of guns that are used to commit crimes are stolen and are an easy to easy target of theft and end up in the wrong hands.


A lot of what you're saying makes perfect sense. This is a sick society that's getting sicker. But, they keep making the movies and video games that influence kid's bad behavior. Greed is a big part of the problem.


A deranged student with a rifle had no problem getting into a school. A student with a bible would have been stopped immediately.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158848
02/15/18 03:21 PM
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Cool gangsta rappers don't help either.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158851
02/15/18 03:22 PM
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or the media supporting and giving free press to people threatening to kill the President.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Gary Benson] #6158869
02/15/18 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
or the media supporting and giving free press to people threatening to kill the President.


Or rappers talking about killing parents or cops.


A deranged student with a rifle had no problem getting into a school. A student with a bible would have been stopped immediately.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158878
02/15/18 04:01 PM
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It's scary to see how many people we have on here who claim to be outdoorsmen, trappers, hunters, and gun owners who would cave to these morons and actually push for more gun control. Do you people really think they will stop with AR 15s? The whole Democrat Socialist agenda and goal is to completely disarm the American people one day to make us a bunch of government dependent socialist sheep. Do you really think a ban on AR 15s would stop this kind of foolishness? Meth is illegal too but I could probably drive straight into town from where I live and find some in about 13 minutes. The same would go for a banned AR 15. There are always going to be mentally insane morons in the world who do this kind of garbage and nothing, including gun bans, is going to stop it. It could be done just as easily and maybe more so with a modified shotgun or several handguns as opposed to an AR 15. The only thing that would slow it down considerably is more guns in the school. Several armed guards and more armed teachers and coaches would help immensely.

Sometimes I feel that those of us who truly love our country and our freedoms are in the minority and fighting a losing battle. It's alarming that we can't even count on fellow gun owners to stand up against more gun control and attacks on free people that our soldiers died for.

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Ronaround] #6158885
02/15/18 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ronaround
Oh my, did they say AR-15..
BTW he's a ANTIFA supporter & member of many resistance groups to boot.any one condemning them yet?

Taking away 30 round mags we did before and guess what you just bring more smaller ones. There is no one sure fix for this.Possibly doing what is on the Books should be first and foremost. Stop making more Regs the priority with no one enforcing the old. Was there school policy being enforced at the school yesterday and protocol being met? or did it get lax and this happened? this i would like to know.
My sympathy to all the families that endured this tragedy.


Most of these nut-cases are liberals, ANTIFA types if you do some looking..........the odd part?
Liberals, even the ones on here are the ones calling for gun laws! Guess it's one of those, "protect me from myself" things crazy

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: danvee] #6158896
02/15/18 04:32 PM
02/15/18 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: danvee
Part of the problem is what kids are exposed to now on TV and videos a good read on desensitization is Lt. Col. Dave Grossmans book "on Killing" The military figured out how to get soldiers to get over the human instinct not to take a human life. With the Rambo stuff on TV and the video games kids are getting there heads really messed up. Throw in a broken home, some drugs and being bullied and it is a recipe that we see too much of. The gun is just a tool that is to often used and blamed in a sick society. I don't think or ever will think that gun control is the answer I do think it would be a good law however to make sure that if you do own guns that they have to be secured. I think Canada has a law that requires guns when not in use to be secured in a safe, it would not be a cure all. I do know that a lot of accidental shootings are caused by curious kids grabbing a gun stuffed under a mattress or shoved in a closet. Also a lot of guns that are used to commit crimes are stolen and are an easy to easy target of theft and end up in the wrong hands.


Well that would kind of defeat the purpose of having a gun for home protection, wouldn't it? What good is a gun going to do me when someone breaks in if it's locked in a safe?


Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158898
02/15/18 04:34 PM
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A baseball bat would work a lot better for home protection.


Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: hippie] #6158906
02/15/18 04:45 PM
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This is incorrect

He is a White supremacist

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-shooting.html

Originally Posted By: Ronaround
Oh my, did they say AR-15..
BTW he's a ANTIFA supporter & member of many resistance groups to boot.any one condemning them yet?
...

Last edited by lebowski; 02/15/18 04:50 PM.

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Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158907
02/15/18 04:47 PM
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The old saying is don't bring a bat to a gun fight. Or something like that.

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158908
02/15/18 04:48 PM
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So take ar's then handguns then shotguns then all other guns airguns included. Now all knives all baseball bats and anything that can be used as a club. Then take away all cars,trucks, lawnmowers, atvs, motorcycles,anything drivable.
Where does it stop? Objects do not kill people. Sick people kill people.

Family values are gone from this country. Walk in a restaurant, look mom and dad took the family out for dinner. And they are all on the dam phone.
Makes me sad,and mad as he'll!!
And you fools against public hangings are wrong,it would lower crime.
And you want to thump your Bible.
An eye for an eye.

Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158918
02/15/18 05:00 PM
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Bring in Sharia law.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158920
02/15/18 05:08 PM
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The Common Sense approach in Washington D.C. won't fly.

There are too many idiots there that only think of re-election.


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"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158921
02/15/18 05:10 PM
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"Bring in Sharia law." crazy


Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers

"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: Finster] #6158928
02/15/18 05:18 PM
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Awesome President Trump actually put blame where it belongs today in his speech. MENTAL HEALTH! It's so refreshing to see a President blame the correct cause and not the tool.


I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
Re: Active school shooting! [Re: lebowski] #6158929
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Originally Posted By: lebowski
This is incorrect

He is a White supremacist

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-shooting.html

Originally Posted By: Ronaround
Oh my, did they say AR-15..
BTW he's a ANTIFA supporter & member of many resistance groups to boot.any one condemning them yet?
...


Maybe they claim him, but he claims to be one of your group.

http://gorges-smythe.blogspot.com/2018/02/florida-shooter-is-antifa-supporter.html

https://theroperreportsite.wordpress.com...tifa-supporter/

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