Re: Active school shooting!
[Re: Trapper7]
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[/quote] Of course, Hollywooders and people with the common sense of a field mouse, will tell you these movies and society today has no bearing on these shootings. This is mostly correct except there is always the possibility of that one person who associates with something in the movie that motivates him. America is on a slippery slope and unless we make some drastic changes, things are only going to get worse. [/quote]
Please do not disparage the field mouse, they show far more common sense than the liberal elites do!
I do agree that Hollywood through the glorification of the thug lifestyle bares a lot of responsibility for the behavior of a lot of people, so many people today cannot think or do for themselves, they follow morons on Twitter and FaceBook and think everything they say or do is some sort of gospel. Social Media is pure evil and takes the human out of humanity, kids and young adults today do not know what real friends are nor do they know how to be a real friend.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Not sure about this case , but the common denominator in all these nut job shootings is prescribed psychotropic meds
Little Johnny has issues
He is taken to a Dr.
The doctor is trained to diagnose and places little Johnny in one of many categories. ( schizophrenia, bipolar, depression , anxiety, etc )
The doctor must label little Johnny or he cannot prescribe any medication
The doctor repeats this process with thousands of patients annually making an exceptional living
The truth is that all little Johnny needed was a swift kick in the a zzzzz now and then That's the truth! Some of you pansies blaming the AR is laughable. You're probably the same ones who put your kid's nose in the corner instead of whipping his little @ss when he get's out of line. ^^^^I love these two forum members analogy of the now generation!
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Re: Active school shooting!
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02/15/18 02:32 PM
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We had cops in my High School and they did absolutely nothing. Were there any mass shootings?
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Part of the problem is what kids are exposed to now on TV and videos a good read on desensitization is Lt. Col. Dave Grossmans book "on Killing" The military figured out how to get soldiers to get over the human instinct not to take a human life. With the Rambo stuff on TV and the video games kids are getting there heads really messed up. Throw in a broken home, some drugs and being bullied and it is a recipe that we see too much of. The gun is just a tool that is to often used and blamed in a sick society. I don't think or ever will think that gun control is the answer I do think it would be a good law however to make sure that if you do own guns that they have to be secured. I think Canada has a law that requires guns when not in use to be secured in a safe, it would not be a cure all. I do know that a lot of accidental shootings are caused by curious kids grabbing a gun stuffed under a mattress or shoved in a closet. Also a lot of guns that are used to commit crimes are stolen and are an easy to easy target of theft and end up in the wrong hands. A lot of what you're saying makes perfect sense. This is a sick society that's getting sicker. But, they keep making the movies and video games that influence kid's bad behavior. Greed is a big part of the problem.
A deranged student with a rifle had no problem getting into a school. A student with a bible would have been stopped immediately.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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or the media supporting and giving free press to people threatening to kill the President.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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or the media supporting and giving free press to people threatening to kill the President. Or rappers talking about killing parents or cops.
A deranged student with a rifle had no problem getting into a school. A student with a bible would have been stopped immediately.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Oh my, did they say AR-15.. BTW he's a ANTIFA supporter & member of many resistance groups to boot.any one condemning them yet?
Taking away 30 round mags we did before and guess what you just bring more smaller ones. There is no one sure fix for this.Possibly doing what is on the Books should be first and foremost. Stop making more Regs the priority with no one enforcing the old. Was there school policy being enforced at the school yesterday and protocol being met? or did it get lax and this happened? this i would like to know. My sympathy to all the families that endured this tragedy. Most of these nut-cases are liberals, ANTIFA types if you do some looking..........the odd part? Liberals, even the ones on here are the ones calling for gun laws! Guess it's one of those, "protect me from myself" things
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Re: Active school shooting!
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Part of the problem is what kids are exposed to now on TV and videos a good read on desensitization is Lt. Col. Dave Grossmans book "on Killing" The military figured out how to get soldiers to get over the human instinct not to take a human life. With the Rambo stuff on TV and the video games kids are getting there heads really messed up. Throw in a broken home, some drugs and being bullied and it is a recipe that we see too much of. The gun is just a tool that is to often used and blamed in a sick society. I don't think or ever will think that gun control is the answer I do think it would be a good law however to make sure that if you do own guns that they have to be secured. I think Canada has a law that requires guns when not in use to be secured in a safe, it would not be a cure all. I do know that a lot of accidental shootings are caused by curious kids grabbing a gun stuffed under a mattress or shoved in a closet. Also a lot of guns that are used to commit crimes are stolen and are an easy to easy target of theft and end up in the wrong hands. Well that would kind of defeat the purpose of having a gun for home protection, wouldn't it? What good is a gun going to do me when someone breaks in if it's locked in a safe?
Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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A baseball bat would work a lot better for home protection.
Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity
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Re: Active school shooting!
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This is incorrect He is a White supremacist https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/florida-shooting.htmlOh my, did they say AR-15.. BTW he's a ANTIFA supporter & member of many resistance groups to boot.any one condemning them yet? ...
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Re: Active school shooting!
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So take ar's then handguns then shotguns then all other guns airguns included. Now all knives all baseball bats and anything that can be used as a club. Then take away all cars,trucks, lawnmowers, atvs, motorcycles,anything drivable. Where does it stop? Objects do not kill people. Sick people kill people.
Family values are gone from this country. Walk in a restaurant, look mom and dad took the family out for dinner. And they are all on the dam phone. Makes me sad,and mad as he'll!! And you fools against public hangings are wrong,it would lower crime. And you want to thump your Bible. An eye for an eye.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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The Common Sense approach in Washington D.C. won't fly.
There are too many idiots there that only think of re-election.
Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers
"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction." "After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
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Re: Active school shooting!
[Re: Finster]
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Awesome President Trump actually put blame where it belongs today in his speech. MENTAL HEALTH! It's so refreshing to see a President blame the correct cause and not the tool.
I BELIEVE IN MY GOD, MY COUNTRY AND IN MYSELF.
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Re: Active school shooting!
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