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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174297
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I guess I don't see why we don't use what is in place now. If someone makes a threat to a school, someone needs to bring it to the school's attention. The school principal goes to the courthouse and request a Restraining Order. He fills it out, and checks the box requesting the Sheriff's Department assistance in serving it. You check box that he has weapons and request the judge orders that he surrenders them until the Injunction Hearing. Around here at least, the clerk walks it to the Judge's Office and it is signed within the hour. Sheriff department start's looking him and the guns. Now they have until the Injunction Hearing to sort everything out, Chapter 51 eval, or charge him with a crime. Either way, the threatening person can be looked at, and the process is started immediately.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: trapdad] #6174302
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That's the way it should work trapdad and you're right, there are existing laws to take care of those types of situations. In the case of the Parkland shooting, school administrators and law enforcement repeatedly dropped the ball.


Eh...wot?

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6174317
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Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB
I doubt that. Your claiming that cameras are always rolling for public consumption everytime Trump meets with someone. That's absurd in the extreme and very stupid if it was.


I never claimed such.
I claimed you never saw these before, and i'm correct on that.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174322
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Go to Fox news BBB, another meeting on tv.
More exposure than ever before.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: hippie] #6174332
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB
I doubt that. Your claiming that cameras are always rolling for public consumption everytime Trump meets with someone. That's absurd in the extreme and very stupid if it was.


I never claimed such.
I claimed you never saw these before, and i'm correct on that.


Saw what before? A public meeting with politicians? Obama did these all the time before he became a lame duck in 2010 and Trump is doing them now. Unfortunately it looks like these meetings could actually produce legislation.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174340
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Post one BBB, one that is more than the presidents address that lasts 5 minutes and then no more cameras. Post an hour long one like Art did.

I've never seen it and would like to if they exist.

(and will readily admit i'm wrong, unlike you did with your claim that i said everything will/has been televised.)

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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174344
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Preferably one about guns after Sandy Hook when they wanted to ban AR's.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174362
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You can look(and Sandy Hook was after 2010), I don't care whether anyone has closed door meetings or open meetings. I generally don't trust these political theater, all the browbeating to get the politicians in line will be behind the scenes.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174371
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You know people should understand that anytime you have an initial meeting like that, whether closed or open, you should expect to hear dumb things and dumb ideas. The purpose of those meetings to float ideas. These ideas might be off the top of their head and half thought out ideas. This how things come about. You look at several ideas, sort out the bad ones, and pick the best. Any good meeting should appreciate the free flow of thoughts. Sometimes a good process comes out of left field, misspoken thought. There is no sense in getting wrapped up about how a THOUGHT comes out. Especially in the sound bite clips we get bombarded with. What matters is official process or legislation that comes out. People make mistakes when speaking openly.

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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174372
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Exactly Trapdad.
That's why past presidents didn't do un-scripted pressers.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174375
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Saying take the guns now and worry about due process later, is just a crass and stupid way word the process that is place now... Restraining orders.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174414
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Trumpsplaining:. The act of trying to clarify or explain what Trump's contradicting and often factually bereft word barfs ACTUALLY mean while simultaneously claiming it doesn't actually mean what Trump actually said. usually performed by common Trump fanboys, magicians, or most often by Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174419
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Trumpsplaining: The crickets from the left after Trump does good for America after they jumped on every word he said earlier.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: hippie] #6174426
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Trumpsplaining: The crickets from the left after Trump does good for America after they jumped on every word he said earlier.


The biggest error in your assumptions is that you believe Trump critics are all "lefties". However, it is human nature to blanket our beliefs in false assumptions to protect the ego. I understand.

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Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174431
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Yea, your right.
I was going by the majority.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: hippie] #6174436
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At least on the gun deal he took the time to meet with both parties and offer his insights and opinions. On the tariff issue he never even contacted Congressional leaders on his position and now we see the businesses reeling to find out where that will take us in the future. Trust is a big issue when working in the unbelievably subjective world of politics.

Bryce

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174441
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Trust? Trust left Washington generations ago.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174443
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I suppose there will be pain somewhere along the line if we are to stop offshore companies from dumping their slave labor priced goods on us.

I don't know enough about the BIG picture to comment other than what i just did. smile

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: James] #6174453
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If pain is another word for centralized government planning and pretending to know what is best for American consumers, than I agree.

Re: Trump proposes seizing guns before due process [Re: vegasjim] #6174455
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Good job Lugnut!!!!


Dang right!!!!!


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