Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: JeremyEickhoff]
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03/07/18 09:17 PM
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Inefficient, I agree to disagree. In an almost froze out marsh situation, you ain't planting green poles or plotting strategic bodygrips, no way, no how! Even if you magically found an ice chambered run down into the depths of a mud tunnel, how many mushrats will that lead too? How many spear holes are you willing to cut out in a day? The goal is to manage the surplus population by any legal means necessary. And to be honest, if my fingers were physically fit, I would be demanding 100/125 day checks. No different than open water. Keep it rolling 4 months straight!
If I am considered in the banana belt, south east Wisconsin is the tropics! Totally different in many ways.
A bit invasive? Are you looking for a pet muskrat? I have the upmost respect for you Chris, you are a true trapper, and wealth of hidden information... and between you, Rich, and Steve, I have been very fortunate to pick up the cookie trail left behind. But I know when is enough to stop asking. Time will learn me the rest I suppose.
Now if I can only succeed in persuasion, us Minnesota hut busters might finally be learned in the many things revolved around the true spring thaw, floats and all.
Think I know how Doc Frankenstein felt after he created his monster......LOL
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/08/18 07:32 AM
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Thanks guys for sharing your thoughts. I certainly learned some things. Good luck in the future and keep your eyes on the prize! My search continues
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: JeremyEickhoff]
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YoY! What a difference 4 months does. Not sure I seen such semetric leather detail on a triple juvie. Likely a large on the opener. Great return on your short term investment
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/08/18 09:13 AM
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Rich, your words ring truer than I think you realize!
Just remember like the Beaver says he two step traps, but really it's like 50 steps, I would be happy to be be your old broken bone crutch!
Still want that battle axe hut buster! Been sitting on a skol Vikings helmet just waiting to plunder! Your right for the most part about how many steps. But there was a spring with high water where I was stepping out of the truck Into the water and making at least a step or 2 to the ditch bank. I think It was the spring of 2012.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: Rich Kaspar]
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03/12/18 05:00 PM
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Nimzy, sign me up for lessons! I need to see this 80 rats/day thru 20" cloudy ice with a ft of snow on top of it, with a tubfull of rusty 110;s Boy scout hatchet or a dull jiffy ice chisle? Would this be considered "cloudy Ice" ? I found one deal im gonna have on boat next year....theyve got undercoatings, real slick stuff for air boats but mudmotor guys are using now too,,,,gator glide and frogg snot are 2 brands..... I'm gonna try that stuff. THanks
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/12/18 06:43 PM
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NO need to have the trap under water unless there Is a law saying you have to.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/12/18 10:40 PM
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The rat likes to climb to the highest point, doesn't bother them a bit. That's why you can set a tipped over cattail root in flooded areas of that, right on top where the rat crap is and they'll climb to the top, you might have to shim that trap up level with vegetation or something.
They like staying dry and eating above the water line.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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What I wouldn't do for a situation like this! Direct and forward mushrat trapping! I imagine that federal refuge saved those "lemmings"? Or are you responsible Nimzy?
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/15/18 02:42 PM
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down here, what ive seen youd be better off having traps UNDERWATER for most part, they just dont climb out on stuff like up north as much, and for sure will avoid a fair amount of traps sitting above water....or i should say, climb up on something not quite natural to them in their habitat....they will eventually, but takes them a while to get used to it....but theyll still avoid uncovered traps and more climb up on the center of float to avoid them
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If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/15/18 02:48 PM
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Nimzy, is that a boat path in that pic?...or from a sled of sorts....Id make it an entire 20 ft if I had to drag a rat sled thru that muk....LOL
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/16/18 08:57 AM
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Floats are bulky. They are a low percentage set in the fall unless you float them right near a rat house. Otherwise, shoreline, fall dispersal type rats out getting away from the family (my thoughts on that) seems to be a rat per two trap float every other day, picking up stragglers. It is (again) a way to catch rats in fluctuating water level conditions .
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/16/18 09:40 AM
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Chris to much room on that float. The rats can come up the sides and never make contact with the traps.
Like Les said we always had better luck placing my stools or floats along the edge of the standing cattails. The rats are constantly patrolling the edges.
I have a skiff that's Identical to yours. Great boat.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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If you motor slow into an area, and set for a second, you'll witness how little of a space a rat needs to crawl up on, especially if you watch one climb up on an up rooted cat tail. That little 3 cornered root will have 5 square inches of space with rat turds added for landing, lol.
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