Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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Belisle are the cheapest Canadian BG on the market,pricewise and steel quality.The design is very good.They are a good trap though for the price you get what you pay for.I prefer the ldl but I do use belisles also.Rudy and Sauvageau are very good traps also.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 03:52 PM
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Interesting,and glad you wrote this.I've been hearing similar things and didn't know what to make of it because I'd always heard glowing reviews of Belisle's.Looking for body grippers this summer and always liked BMI's.I think I'll stick with them.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 04:24 PM
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I've noticed that the jaws on Belisle 330s do bend....too easily.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 05:20 PM
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For me the Belisles 330 is too strong, and they do bend. One of my Belisles spring eyes wasn't formed right, cant use the second notch on the dog. I like the Bridger 330 Mags myself. It's the full closure that kills with ample power. The Bridger 280's are sweet also. Both don't bend and are fully functional.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 06:34 PM
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thanks a million guys I was just sbout to bite the bullet and get a couple dozen 330s! Guess I will try out a different brand! My dukes have served me well Its a shame they are so poorly assembled. because the springs are super strong! ive yet to try a bridger 330 but I absolutely hate their tiny spring eyed 155
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 07:12 PM
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The Bridgers 330s have full closure Jaws, and yes I've held them by the front foot. Had a Bridger 220 on a crossing log , evidently a big beaver climbed over and knocked the 220 over and got him by the back foot. He just swam around in circles, LOL.. I have killed more than a couple with the 220s too in tight spots. All the bridger BGs have full closure except for the 159.
The Belisles I have have very strong springs, and the jaws bend, couple wacks with a hammer takes care of that but I'd rather not. I think WCS has the Canadian brands.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 08:33 PM
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The Belisles I bought a year ago had very strong springs. The BMI's I bought a year ago were some of the weakest 330's I've ever seen, old or new..
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 09:53 PM
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Seriously are the sauvageaus worth that much more? Im all about quality but there is a fine line between quality and raping people
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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WELL NEVERMIND I can already say they can not be worth 425 a dozen! That's ludicriss I can install kill bars on dukes and have a heck of a lot less invested!! lol if someone steals one they fall into felony theft category
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/08/18 11:24 PM
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I,m just scratching my head about the quality control , durability and are they worth the price difference ? YES.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/09/18 02:46 PM
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My belisles have all bent on the jaws after a good hit on a bigger beaver. They do catch and hold even on limb catches though..
I got a few savageau before last season and again this season. I'll be hard pressed to buy another 330 size body gripper other than savageau again. Just my .02.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/09/18 04:53 PM
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My Belisle 220’s are the stoutest 220 I have used by far. They are not bent. I don’t set them off with boards though. They are the meanest body grips I own. I like the BMI traps too. They do not have as strong of springs in the 220. Plenty strong though for Coon.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/09/18 05:48 PM
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That's an easy fix. Just put it in a vice and twist. Any time people are involved mistakes happen. They just happened to miss one, you are the lottery winner.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/09/18 06:04 PM
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I'd rather not say who the supplier was Aix because they have been excellent so far with customer service , prompt orders and questions answered . Also the defect was hard to see at first with the springs open . I didn't notice it until after degreasing , washing and then finally setting it
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/10/18 11:42 AM
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Does Bridger still use the flat safety that swings freely? I bought a few Bridger 220 and 330 magnums several years ago. Like all free swinging safeties, they're terrible about catching everything within reach. The Belisle safeties aren't as bad about it, still catch but not like the free swingers. The spring eye also constantly goes around the corner of the jaws on the Bridgers I bought. I've had to beat it back across with an axe. Maybe something has changed since then?
I like that the spring eye can't go around the jaw corner, and I like the immobile safeties of the Belisle. But the trigger wire is too soft, and the jaws do bend on occasion. I carry wire coat hanger to replace the trigger, and I keep an eye on the jaws. But I love the trap. I've had them hold beaver by the front feet, back feet, and tails. I also like, at least on the ones I bought, maybe I got traps made on a Wednesday instead of a Monday or Friday, the attention to detail on the jaw pivot welds. They're clean and rounded, the spring eyes don't catch on them when I'm setting them on a log or stick, unlike the other brands I own where the ends of the bar stock aren't rounded and the spring eye catches on them just about every time. I can work around it, but much easier on the Belisles I own.
I'd like to try BMI, may get a few next batch.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/10/18 12:30 PM
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I tack weld closed the spring eyes on my Belisles. Doing so keeps them from getting tweaked open.
The only time I get a bent jaw is when it dry fires on a stick. Considering their spring power, I’m not surprised that this happens.
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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My belisles have all bent on the jaws after a good hit on a bigger beaver. They do catch and hold even on limb catches though..
I got a few savageau before last season and again this season. I'll be hard pressed to buy another 330 size body gripper other than savageau again. Just my .02.
Mud, could you tell us where you aqquired the Savageau's, or who might sell them in the States?
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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03/10/18 10:50 PM
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My belisles have all bent on the jaws after a good hit on a bigger beaver. They do catch and hold even on limb catches though..
I got a few savageau before last season and again this season. I'll be hard pressed to buy another 330 size body gripper other than savageau again. Just my .02.
Mud, could you tell us where you aqquired the Savageau's, or who might sell them in the States? https://www.snareshop.com/products.asp?dept=608
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Re: Question about the quality of Belisle traps
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My belisles have all bent on the jaws after a good hit on a bigger beaver. They do catch and hold even on limb catches though..
I got a few savageau before last season and again this season. I'll be hard pressed to buy another 330 size body gripper other than savageau again. Just my .02.
Mud, could you tell us where you aqquired the Savageau's, or who might sell them in the States? Snare shop when I ordered some snare parts. Wy wolfer , they dont call them 330. GO by the trap dimensions. https://www.snareshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SA2001-12F
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