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Government over reach. #6187941
03/14/18 10:57 PM
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So I was out exercising my hounds on a county dirt road. Half mile from the last house behind us and twelve miles to the next. Dogs stay in between the fencing on ROW. Ecollars add bite to reinforce my vocal commands. I see a vehicle coming I stop and get out call the dogs and make them lay down on the ditch side of My Trk.
Well today the vehicle was a county sheriff with two young deputies. They say I'm not allowed to run my dogs on the county road. I said I had no idea since we were outside of the city limits. They say don't want to have the dogs run over. I say neither do I that's why I called them to me and made then lay down till your vehicle is well past. This road is straight as a string and flat enough that a vehicle can't get closer than a half mile before you see it. Very little traffic as in probably two per hr. The sheriff's Trk was the only one I saw today. They did say if I was on a two track on the forest I'd be ok. My response was that's thirty miles one way.
Somehow I went to bed in WYOMING last night. And woke up in a liberal hole.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6187952
03/14/18 11:11 PM
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Can't run your dogs down the road in an open range state?

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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6187954
03/14/18 11:12 PM
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We started a thousand coon running our hound's that way on dirt roads in Wisconsin...never once got bothered. WOW!


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6187986
03/14/18 11:58 PM
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Boys, just as well wrap up your AR’s n traps for when they come to get them. Yea, I had some venting typed in here but didn’t want to get your thread deleted!!!!! If Pa. fell for it, there’s no help now!

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6187987
03/14/18 11:59 PM
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They were bored and needed something to show they mattered today in your rural area. I would have asked them to cite me the state law where dogs running down any empty public law was illegal.


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6187988
03/15/18 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: cmcf
So I was out exercising my hounds on a county dirt road. Half mile from the last house behind us and twelve miles to the next. Dogs stay in between the fencing on ROW. Ecollars add bite to reinforce my vocal commands. I see a vehicle coming I stop and get out call the dogs and make them lay down on the ditch side of My Trk.
Well today the vehicle was a county sheriff with two young deputies. They say I'm not allowed to run my dogs on the county road. I said I had no idea since we were outside of the city limits. They say don't want to have the dogs run over. I say neither do I that's why I called them to me and made then lay down till your vehicle is well past. This road is straight as a string and flat enough that a vehicle can't get closer than a half mile before you see it. Very little traffic as in probably two per hr. The sheriff's Trk was the only one I saw today. They did say if I was on a two track on the forest I'd be ok. My response was that's thirty miles one way.
Somehow I went to bed in WYOMING last night. And woke up in a liberal hole.


Man your not kidding , I thought Wyoming was the last great state . Idaho is currently being taken over by Californians like Oregon was many years ago. What's left in the great West ? Or should I say what's NOT left


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188014
03/15/18 01:17 AM
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Preciate the response. I feel a visit to the law section of the county public library is in my imediate future! I am a law abiding citizen and a productive member of society. I respect law enforcement personnel and the job they do, that being said, I have first person knowledge of rare instances when they have said things, and even more rare, times when they have done things that were not within the statutes. If their statement was accurate I will abide and make other arrangements. The house I mentioned in the first post that was twelve miles in front of me when they stopped and talked to me sets in the middle of a thirty eight square mile ranch that I have permission to trap on. It will be a few more miles to go to let the dogs run. But if the deputies where just flapping their lips without a statute on record, then a visit with the Sheriff is definitely on. Again thanks for the supportive response. Sleep well America and may GOD BLESS!


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188016
03/15/18 01:22 AM
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I wouldn't even bother trying to decipher library law books. Talk to the sheriff. I am sure he would like to hear about it, whether it's a law or not.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188026
03/15/18 03:54 AM
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id start at the sheriffs office also. somebody musta complained about something


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: danny clifton] #6188033
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
id start at the sheriffs office also. somebody musta complained about something


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188035
03/15/18 04:48 AM
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Boys in blue with nothing better to do. Just showing the young bucks they have the power to harass.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188039
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I would investigate

Re: Government over reach. [Re: d hall] #6188049
03/15/18 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: d hall
Boys, just as well wrap up your AR’s n traps for when they come to get them. Yea, I had some venting typed in here but didn’t want to get your thread deleted!!!!! If Pa. fell for it, there’s no help now!


If PA fell for what? Semi auto rifles were illegal to use as hunting weapons until the last couple years and Our governor said he's leaving it up to the game commission to decide if they want them for big game. It seems as most states are becoming more restrictive PA is loosening them.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188054
03/15/18 06:12 AM
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Thanks guys you are correct in that someone may have complained. Even with the dogs laying down by the truck some people slowdown to 5mph. Most smile and wave, but some just frown. Who knows maybe they think Im being mean,making them run haha. In any event I will do my due diligence and view the statues. I do remember about three or four years ago a bunch of ordinances pertaining to dogs in town where passed. Things like you can't take your dog into a bar, or if you have a dog In the back of a truck it has to be tied so it can't get to the edge of the bed when you are down town etc. But I thought those where city ordinances, we will see.


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188057
03/15/18 06:21 AM
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Some California transplant to CO. who then transplanted to WY. said you were torturing dogs by making them run down a county road. What they were really upset about though was that hounds and hunting with them is legal in WY. At least that's my best guess.


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188068
03/15/18 06:43 AM
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Not sure about your laws, but many state a dog must be under your control. E collars count as this. The law must state the dog has to be under physical control in order for them to do anything. Some just have nothing better to do.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188095
03/15/18 07:28 AM
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Unfortunately some law enforcement officers need to get a life.

They have a need to dictate everything a person does.

Those types always have a way to over think and twist things into a law to stop people from doing harmless stuff.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188109
03/15/18 07:40 AM
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I'd be looking into it further also. Good luck


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Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188124
03/15/18 07:52 AM
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Sounds to me like the Sheriff was showing off for the new deputies. Showing them that he is the law in this county, regardless of what the law actually says. It may not be this at all, but it smells like it from here.

Re: Government over reach. [Re: cmcf] #6188131
03/15/18 07:59 AM
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I was thinking, if everyone obeyed leash laws, we wouldn't have lost our right of way trapping. On the other hand, if dog owners accepted the consequences of letting Fido run loose instead of blaming someone else for their lack of judgement I would have no problem repealing any leash law. BTW, I am a dog owner.


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