What you not going for the perfect home defense AR ??????


Sorry couldn't help myself .......................

Was thinking of my wife and son. I just want them to like shooting it. Probably not needed, but the stock is nice otherwise too. Is there any problem with them? I have never even seen one in real life.

I really want the easy to adjust pull length.......

I think I heard some bad things about those stocks....maybe. I would research that before purchase.

I like the 870. The operating systems are very intuitive...safety, slide release. I like handgun in very close quarters.

Just going to leave this right here...

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Mike

Forget the rail and the light and all the gadgetry !

Just more crap to malfunction or fool around with when micro-seconds count. Remember too, that that light gives someone a target to shoot at

410/.45 revolver is an awesome close quarters gun that anyone can shoot/operate. Pull trigger...

I hear both sides of this. I just don’t know how I would carry a light with a shotgun. With my pistols it’s easy.

I've had 870's forever and one 500. I didn't like the safety and I hated cleaning it because the trigger group isn't one piece like the Remington. I've got a 12ga 870 with a SpecOps stock and a +2 magazine extension. It actually has a ghost ring sight on it. I don't really think the sight would come into play in close quarters home defense enough to warrant specifically adding it. I would probably stick with the 870 if that's what you're familiar with.

Even with a pistol in low light conditions I prefer to NOT use a light. Yes I have trained both ways. I want both hands on the piece and available to handle magazine changes if needed. I can see a tactical light used to blind someone long enough to deal with the situation but generally I'll rely on my front sight. Night sights go a long way in eliminating the need for a flashlight, IMO

Its hard to buy the 'correct' gun for a number of people to use when its a life and death situation that you are planning for.

Especially when there are a woman and kids involved. Maybe there is a range close where they have some rentals? Home invasions can be brutal.

I would encourage you to get some really professional training. Gunsite Academy is top of the line. They include low light, dark, indoor simulators with all sorts of real-world scenarios in their training, as well as outdoor, square range and simulators..

I have access to some different shotguns I can borrow. I see your point. Mainly I want something that she is comfortable locking herself in a room with the kid. I figure if someone came through the door and she was prepared with some buckshot they would be safe. I just have to get her used to shooting it. She’s good with pistols, but is not good with a semi auto. She’s not interested enough to learn how to deal with problems and has a limp wrist. She likes my 642 but that’s not much compared to a few 20 gauge shots.

I also want to have fun with it. Not sure when my son will be ready for it but he loves to shoot.

For what it's worth, I keep two shotguns well-hidden but easily accessible in my home. Both are kept in cruiser ready condition; full magazine, empty chamber, safety off, trigger pulled so that the hammer/firing pin is down/released.

All pump shotguns in cruiser ready condition operate exactly the same. Simply work the slide and you are ready to fire. No safety or action release to fumble with.

And, in a time of crises, there is the added benefit of the sound of the slide being racked. The universal warning that tells any bad guy to get out now before things turn deadly.