Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/17/18 09:40 AM
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The divider between the 2 traps just has to be a bit higher then what Is shown. That should solve the problem
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
[Re: gwade]
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03/17/18 10:36 AM
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I have never had a rat get caught in two traps, and I have even less of a divider, just a pole barn spike for bait. I would try Silkys design the way it is, maybe.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/17/18 01:31 PM
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Here's my float design and it works quite well. Small and light. Not much room for the rats. Almost over the trap once they climb up. I made a 1/2 doz similar to that the last spring i trapped ND, made last week of season....these were covered with 1x1 wire to be legal and had 8x8 opening counting the wire roof...taller center board, and screw to firmly attach carrot each side since my opening was a little wide and wanted them tugging on carrot for more chances to catch, worked very well what little i used i heard about a guy in SD using a 2x6 up on end with a stake hole thru it to keep propped up, and just used 2 nails w/ heads cut off to fit coils of a 1.5........guy was in the 1000s and been float trqpping 30 plus years...told to me by a SD state trapper...never saw it my own eyes but from what i hear was the zenith of float trap design and 10s of 1000s of rats
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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Nebr you can still set right on the hut in spring, so i pretty much just set huts with leghlolds, and baited conis when not on hut, and leave ALL the scrap wood piled up where it aint been moved for 4 years.
i should be spring trapping right now, but after a 3.33 rat ave at nafa, for a buck fiddy spring rat ill let them swim
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If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/17/18 02:00 PM
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Nebr you can still set right on the hut in spring, so i pretty much just set huts with leghlolds, and baited conis when not on hut, and leave ALL the scrap wood piled up where it aint been moved for 4 years.
i should be spring trapping right now, but after a 3.33 rat ave at nafa, for a buck fiddy spring rat ill let them swim Problem is when the price up, its too late to volume trap, cause everyone focuses on rats and floods the market. I go hard every year. I seems like rat prices never stay high for more then one auction. in my opinion!
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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Id like to get to point id just go trap a 1000/year bout 10 days, then maybe sell 500 and hold 500 if price was low-ish, then some year cash in a few 2-4 thou when it goes up......5 bucks finished aint asking much what id like to ave to get excited, when it gets cheaper than that there is other stuff to do that looks a little more appealing....like nightvision and coyotes
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/20/18 07:31 AM
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I only had a problem when I attached both traps to the center stake. One in two traps is counterproductive for sure.
IMO the less bulk with effective results the better. Thanks silky I anchored mine on each side of the trap, haven't caught a double yet. but i can't see one getting cought in both traps. I guess its possible if they would use the chain to climb back up!
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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I only had a problem when I attached both traps to the center stake. One in two traps is counterproductive for sure.
IMO the less bulk with effective results the better. Thanks silky I anchored mine on each side of the trap, haven't caught a double yet. but i can't see one getting cought in both traps. I guess its possible if they would use the chain to climb back up! What length of chain you running? I have 14" and with my traps attached to the side they did sometimes jump the center divider and get caught in both traps. I think I remedied that by pulling the chain to the front of the float so that it pulls them towards the water first. If not, I will just attach the screw eye underneath in the center and pull chain up front so that they won't have enough length to get to other side.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/20/18 11:04 AM
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Here's my float design and it works quite well. Small and light. Not much room for the rats. Almost over the trap once they climb up. I an truly a float trapper through and through. I tried this design last spring-it worked alright but too many times I had 1 rat caught in 2 traps and they didn't stack well.I am going to try some mods to it.First off the hole needs to be bigger for sure.Any sort of ice and it doesn't slide down your stake.Going to keep at it and we'll see what I can come up with.Just my opinion of course. They don't stack well with traps pre set on them. But you can interlock them(one right side up the other upside down)without and trap and bungy cord a group together a carry a stack quite easily.
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Re: Making Muskrat Floats
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03/20/18 06:12 PM
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Id like to get to point id just go trap a 1000/year bout 10 days, then maybe sell 500 and hold 500 if price was low-ish, then some year cash in a few 2-4 thou when it goes up......5 bucks finished aint asking much what id like to ave to get excited, when it gets cheaper than that there is other stuff to do that looks a little more appealing....like nightvision and coyotes It’s ten days...go for it. The consolation of cheaper rats is elbow room and full populations. That equates to more fun. Pay me now or pay me later. I’m working on your zenith design, y’all makin a float trapper outta me. Lol. Never say never in trapping.
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