boy we are having fun now

Now I'm not sure just what Grandma meant, but I'd rarely question her. lol.

Well, once upon a time on a small island....

If she meant Scotch she must have been a fun grandma !!

She was a fun Grandma. At thanksgiving we always had to stock Mogan David for her, and My God that is some horrid stuff. I am thinking there might be a use for it in lure making.

Mad Dog 2020 ? I get a headache just typing that !!

Some surnames spellings changed over time as illiteracy was common.

How about a heritage DNA test to see your origin?

Life.

Tis a mighty thing.......

I thought Mad Dog 20/20 and Mogan David were two different things, lol. Must be one of them family secrets nobody talked about. You wouldn't want to call it that in front of Grandma.

If the Irish did a DNA check they'ed find out they are just a Viking product.

My mother's maiden name is Malone.

Most major Irish families' pedigrees are at:

http://www.araltas.com/index1.html

The Malone's pedigree and some other's are listed back to Adam. They are probably not entirely accurate that far back.

Around 11% of people of Irish blood, all European royalty and every US president, but one, are descendants of Nial Noigaillach, who is usually called Niall of the Nine Hostages, a High King and the former owner of St. Patrick. There are over 3 million descendants of Niall, alive today, including myself and probably a large number of other Trapperman members.

Keith

I've had "relations" in several towns!

McChurin

Good luck.

We've searched and searched. Only trace we found was a Matthew with the McChurin surname on a monument. The Daughters of the American Revolution erected a monument (somewhere in Ohio? Maybe Kentucky?) to honor Revelutionary War veterans who settled the Ohio river valley after the war... Or something like that.

We found Matthew completely by random luck in an internet search years ago... But we lost the link and have never been able to find it again. We don't even know what town the monument is in.

After that the trail goes cold until the birth of my great grandfather Richard in Saginaw Co. MN... He was born to a man with the McChurin surname, but his first name is Fallen Star and his wife's name sounds to me like French-Canadian... Margarethe Janette Marquette.

I'm going by memory here, so bear with me... According to what my dad was told, when rolls were taken that Indian names weren't accepted a lot of the time. So it was common for Indian men to ask a friend or acquaintance for permission to use their surname so they could be put on the rolls. So my surname could have been borrowed from a white guy. Not sure how accurate that info is though...

We have never been able to find the surname in any European records.

I really wonder if the first McChurin who came here was illiterate and couldn't spell the name... Somebody asks what his name was and his accent/brogue was so heavy that they just did the best they could when they wrote it down... It might be a fairly common surname that was just misspelled because no one could understand what the guy was saying.

Mike

Well, mike he was Irish maby he was just drunk.

Irish and Scottish people are fairly closely related.

When the Milesians, who most of the modern Celtic population of Ireland are descended from, came from Spain and conquered and drove out the Tuatha De Danann, they gave the later arriving Celtic soldiers widowed Tuatha De Danann women and settled them in Scotland. For much of history, Scotland and the small English nations paid tribute to and were controlled by the High Kings of Ireland. When Scotland would stop paying tribute, Ireland would invade them and force them to pay tribute again. Scottish people are mostly a mix of the Celts who settled Ireland in the last invasion and the displaced earlier peoples.

Keith

That is interesting .

Well my family actual name is O'Morda but when my grand father went through immigration they changed it to Moore so I wouldnt call you ancestor illiterate just yet but thats awesome that you done research about where you came from.

"God invented whiskey to keep the Irish from taking over the world."



Mike

A common saying in my town. After the CN railroad came through here , from Canada and back in again, there was a sprinkling of Irish in every town, but mostly the Canadian ones.

Was it changed at Ellis Island? A lot of names were "Americanized" there

I visited that place last summer. Amazing place to see. Everyone should see it once.

When people support open borders by talking about how their immigrant ancestors came through Ellis Island I tend to shake my head...

You didn't step off the ship, plop down your bags, and give some clerk your name. You were vetted. And it was an ordeal that could sometimes take weeks.

Mike

Yes his name was changed at the gate. but they didnt offer free this or that thats for sure life was different back then you actually had to want to live

I've never been able to determine with any certainty whether my surname is Irish or Scottish.

I guess it doesn't really matter. It's American now.

But if you look back where our forebears left from it helps you understand why they thought America was worth coming to.

Mike