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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: Marty]
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I certainly am happy with the freedoms I have in Kansas. Never said to heck with others...the federal laws are really not a big issue at the moment. That's my opinion. If you live in Kansas and want to be able to carry in gun free zones and avoid the instacheck call in then get a ccl. Simple.
full auto controls, instacheck are not going anywhere so I just accept it as it exists. Here we can carry concealed without ccl. I do not think a rapist/murderer that has been released form prison should be able to go and buy/possess a gun legally....guess I am anti gun...
If you want to hold up a copy of the second amendment and say this means absolutely no restrictions on gun ownership go ahead. Personally I do not feel the restrictions in place in the state that I live in are very adverse. If your state is not similar then you have the option to move.
If you want to go on the white house tour carrying a full auto ready to fire your not a realist. Just my opinion, but it is based on reality.
Yep. A felon should have to give up some of his rights.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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Kinda of off topic but what is the libertarian view on capital punishment?
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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Kinda of off topic but what is the libertarian view on capital punishment? "Libertarian perspectives on capital punishment. Most libertarians believe that the capital punishment (death penalty) is an extreme exertion of state power and is of little use in a free society, while it is of great use to a tyrannical government." From Wikipedia.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: Marty]
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If you want to hold up a copy of the second amendment and say this means absolutely no restrictions on gun ownership go ahead. Personally I do not feel the restrictions in place in the state that I live in are very adverse. If your state is not similar then you have the option to move.
What if I don't like my state's position on voting? Or slavery? Or which church I choose to attend? Or what I'm allowed to say in public? Should I move? Or should I stand up and demand that my rights be recognized? Mike
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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I don't knowwhat difference it makes if an outlaw buys an mp5 from a gun store or a drug dealer If they are able to buy it there is no difference. But availability is the key there...there is no difference if someone murders you with a legally purchased weapon or an illegally purchased one...your still dead. But if they were not able to get the illegally purchased weapon easily you may be alive. If you cannot understand that your beyond help.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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If you want to hold up a copy of the second amendment and say this means absolutely no restrictions on gun ownership go ahead. Personally I do not feel the restrictions in place in the state that I live in are very adverse. If your state is not similar then you have the option to move.
What if I don't like my state's position on voting? Or slavery? Or which church I choose to attend? Or what I'm allowed to say in public? Should I move? Or should I stand up and demand that my rights be recognized? Mike Stand up, sit down...whatever you want. Have at it. I choose to live where I like what the laws are. I guess I could move to NYC and stand on the corner with a sign. But I choose the logical way. Some places are beyond help and so are some people. Just look at the opinions here.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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Kinda of off topic but what is the libertarian view on capital punishment? You'll get a dozen different answers on this... I'm not a card carrying member of the Libertarian party. But I believe the Constitution is the standard by which Americans should judge government. And in a gray area the default decision should err on the side of freedom. The 5th amendment says no person shall be deprived of LIFE, liberty, or property without due process. Just my opinion. Mike
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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so how do you decide when gun control is reasonable? you support strongly a persons right to freely buy a semi. is a semi less likely to kill somebody than an auto? if your right as a citizen to arm yourself is a measure of protection against tyranny why impose a restriction on what you may freely buy and own?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: Marty]
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So you're cool with the fact that constitutional rights are cherry picked based on arbitrary things like geography?
That's not a constitutional republic... That's a democracy. That means when enough morons move to KS, you're screwed.
Mike
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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there are plenty of morons in Kansas.
put me in charge with absolute power and I will fix it all....otherwise we need to work with what we have and not allow more.
your not going to get less....unless you are in a fantasy land.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: 52Carl]
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I truly believe that our military will be on our side and help us create well regulated militias and arm us with whatever we need. Perhaps. But keep in mind that Obama went through and cleaned house and replaced generals with people he felt he could trust... And then he opened the gates wide to allow all kinds of people into the military. Will Trump undo that? Maybe. But the next guy down the road may stack the deck even more with "loyal" personnel. When I joined the Army I swore an oath and I take that oath seriously. But some snowflake unsure of its gender and looking for a free reassignment surgery would probably march you into a gas chamber out of sheer gratitude to Uncle Sugar. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: Marty]
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there are plenty of morons in Kansas.
put me in charge with absolute power and I will fix it all....otherwise we need to work with what we have and not allow more.
your not going to get less....unless you are in a fantasy land. Colorado is right next door Marty... They'll move in and vote your rights away just like they did there. Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
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Still the same pathetic excuses for not supporting any organizations. Same people probably can't take responsibility for their own actions. It's always everyone else's fault.
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Re: What could get “right wing” to support gun control
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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there are plenty of morons in Kansas.
put me in charge with absolute power and I will fix it all....otherwise we need to work with what we have and not allow more.
your not going to get less....unless you are in a fantasy land. Colorado is right next door Marty... They'll move in and vote your rights away just like they did there. Mike They do not want to come here or Ok. They are going north.
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