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Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: schmattz] #6209019
04/05/18 01:44 PM
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Axil lol, sorry bout that.





Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: Wright Brothers] #6209096
04/05/18 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wright Brothers
"and kinked cable is no longer a problem for me"

Being from an unfriendly snare state, I had never seen such a thing.
Going to try a few of these, thanks Axil.

What size for 1/8?
I could assume, but why not just ask.



I’m not quite sure what you’re asking me. I make them using 1/8” 7x19 cable (7 bundles of 19 strands). Just tell whoever you buy from you want 1/8” 7x19. (honestly, 7x7 would probably work well too but it HAS to be taut. 7x19 is just more flexible) I learned this from possum skinners tutorial, it’s in the archives somewhere.

I cut mine 15-20 feet long, and they have an adjustable loop on the deep end. I hammer a stop a couple feet from the adjustable loop to keep the catch from tangling or fighting at the actual stake.


My lock is a cam lock or biter cam (cam lock with teeth). There’s a second cam lock on the main line and it’s used for securing the top end to allow adjustments to whatever length you want.


I only use adjustable drowner cables for beaver, because they allow me to pull the slack and make the cable taut. Taut cable is imperative.


Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: schmattz] #6209116
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When I searched biter camlocks, 3/32 and 5/64 came up. That is why I asked. I'd assume the larger for 1/8 cable.

These type locks are not legal for cable restraints here, but sure could open another option for the mentioned topic,, and,, those trail sets that the set area can be preserved.





Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: schmattz] #6209587
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Chain is the better deal—last forever and no problem with twists or kinks. Bauer locks work or make your own slide from 1” sq tubing.

Either #2 or #3 double loop chain.

Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: schmattz] #6209820
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Make sure you use 1/8 cable and don't forget to double check the lock is going the correct direction. Trust me. Lol.


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Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: USMC47 🦫] #6210674
04/07/18 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: USMC47
Make sure you use 1/8 cable and don't forget to double check the lock is going the correct direction. Trust me. Lol.


laugh I did that ounce, well maybe twice what a mess. LOL


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Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: BillyTraps] #6210912
04/07/18 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: BillyTraps
My experience is a coyote will start bouncing in a trap that close to the road every time a vehicle drives by.
Is there any chance you can backtrack the coyote travel routes and make sets father from the road.?
OR can you hang snares in the tall grass?
I'll be interested to see how you solve this problem. Good Luck


Yup.

Sounds like a spot to just not set.

Unless there’s a bank or something to slide em over, id just not set it. Kill those coyotes somewhere else.

Gotta think about PR at all times.

Last edited by Boone Liane; 04/07/18 01:34 PM.
Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: schmattz] #6211936
04/08/18 03:46 PM
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Feet first, whatever, they all slide down a slide cable. I use them specifically in a couple locations. One is a weedy ditch in open near a road. Caught a lot of coyotes there over the years, and slid them over the bank and out of site.
1/8" cable with a four way swivel with only one j-hook attaching it to a shortened chain. Other hole is the slide lock hole to run the cable through.
Works awesome for coyotes, coon, badger, everything we caught at those locations went down the slide nicely and into the weedy ditch out of site. Wouldnt hesitate to use these to put a catch out of site.
Jim


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Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: schmattz] #6213889
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Seems everytime ive used a lock to slide coyotes, and thats drilling the lock hole 1/8 so super tight and good lock up....coyotes will end up stripping them out after a few catches and then he is zinging back/forth on 20-30 ft of cable......now a few year back i made Zagger a batch that had 4 ft of machine chain ferruled to the cable, and took the sharp edges off the ferrule, for a lock i used a tight fitting on the chain sq tubing similar to chain drowner locks, and it a positive lock up that wouldnt slip on coyotes.....at least I think he told me couple years later they where still working good, might have to check with him and see how they faired over the years......

Problem with solid chain is no matter what however you wrap them up, it becomes a extremely long lesson in chain knot untangling.....heavy too

Last edited by Rich Kaspar; 04/10/18 04:05 PM.

If you are considering yourself to be someone of influence and importance, just try ordering someone elses dog around sometime.
Re: Slide Wires for dry land footholds [Re: Rich Kaspar] #6213926
04/10/18 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rich Kaspar
Seems everytime ive used a lock to slide coyotes, and thats drilling the lock hole 1/8 so super tight and good lock up....coyotes will end up stripping them out after a few catches and then he is zinging back/forth on 20-30 ft of cable......now a few year back i made Zagger a batch that had 4 ft of machine chain ferruled to the cable, and took the sharp edges off the ferrule, for a lock i used a tight fitting on the chain sq tubing similar to chain drowner locks, and it a positive lock up that wouldnt slip on coyotes.....at least I think he told me couple years later they where still working good, might have to check with him and see how they faired over the years......

Problem with solid chain is no matter what however you wrap them up, it becomes a extremely long lesson in chain knot untangling.....heavy too



Rich, have you ever tried using 1/8” biter cams for slider locks? At this time, I don’t use many slides on land, but I do use my share of long, cable beaver dunkers, and biter cams work very very well for me. This leads me to believe they’d work very well for dry sliders.

I have not tried cams without teeth, but I have no reason to believe they wouldn’t work just as well on 7x19 cable. 1x19 would probably be a different story.


Just curious if you’ve tried them and what kind of results you experienced using them.

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