Lure price increase
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04/07/18 08:04 PM
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Paul Dobbins
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Due to the increase in cost of producing my lures, I had to raise my lure prices. As I stated recently on here, I was making very little on my lures and needed to increase the price if I was going to continue offering them for sale. I wanted to give y'all a heads-up, so that when you went to order lures, you'd already know about the increase. I could have diluted the lures, or used inferior ingredients to keep the prices the same and make more profit. However, the lures would have suffered and I have too much pride in my lures to do that. I'd prefer to get out of the lure business before I'd put lures out there that were not up to the standards they have been over the years. Besides, dad would have a fit if he were here and knew I had lowered the standards on the lures he formulated. Anyway, now the prices are as follows. 1 ounce - $7.50 4 ounce - $25.00 pints - $80.00 Bait Solution - $25.00 Beaver and Bobcat Medley - $20. per pint.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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Your gonna have to raise them a lot higher than that to keep me from buying Backbreaker. No issues from me on raising prices.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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04/07/18 11:00 PM
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Shipping is getting crazy don't blame you a bit flat rate went up regional did also.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Law Dog]
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Paul Dobbins
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Shipping is getting crazy don't blame you a bit flat rate went up regional did also. I charge actual shipping on orders, so really that doesn't play into the price increase. It's the increased cost of ingredients, bottles, etc.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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Paul can you re use empty lure bottles if the trappers dropped them off for you at the NTA or other conventions?
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Re: Lure price increase
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04/07/18 11:13 PM
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Paul can you re use empty lure bottles if the trappers dropped them off for you at the NTA or other conventions? It wouldn't be cost effective to clean them up. Getting the labels off is labor intensive. I've done it with wine bottles. That's not a good option.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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Thanks for the update. I’m glad you are going to maintain the quality of lure and raise the prices, rather than skimp on quality of ingredients. Although, I know your integrity would never allow you to do that.
I’ll gladly pay the extra $5 for 4 ounces.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Lure price increase
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Paul, everyone should understand the price of doing business Appreciate the quality of your products. X2
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Re: Lure price increase
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Making quality lures is tough. Making quality lures that you sell on a commercial basis is tougher. Good ingredients are very expensive. I take my hat off to you and other quality lure makers. It may not be popular to say, but while there are a lot of lure makers, in my opinion, very few are what I would call top lure makers. You are lucky in that you are following in your dad's footsteps. He was a guy that truly understood quality. I feel very fortunate to have learned from him at one of Neil Olson's seminars. Also learned just from asking questions, shutting my yap, and listening to him at a few conventions. I appreciate not only your lures, I very much appreciate the ingredients that you sell.
Mac
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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04/08/18 10:32 AM
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Quality cost. Get what you pay for. I'll keep paying for what works. Thankful you guys make it.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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I don't like the writing on the wall i see. Less trappers, lower fur price's, higher cost to trap not just only in cost of lure but also vehicles, tires, battery's, fuel, etc, etc.
Makes me wonder at WHAT point the cost for the lure gets above what the demand for it is?
Can't see rooting around in that rotten mess to produce a lure to sell at a loss of money and hats off to ALL of you would make the lures, wasn't ever an interest of mine, stinks enough just having a bottle of it here and there much less mixing all the nastiness together in large quantity's and storing, no clue how any of you keep a wife, lol.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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04/08/18 04:39 PM
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Paul I have no problem with that. My first double on beaver was a direct result of my first time trying Backbreaker on castor mound sets. I will pay whatever you feel is fair to charge. Thanks for putting out a high quality product.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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04/09/18 04:50 PM
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You bunch of suck ups. LOl I'll be trading rat glands for my lure this year. Hey Paul the price of rat glands just went up. LOL
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Re: Lure price increase
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04/09/18 08:54 PM
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You bunch of suck ups. LOl I'll be trading rat glands for my lure this year. Hey Paul the price of rat glands just went up. LOL I do pay more when in trade for lure.
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Re: Lure price increase
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04/10/18 07:44 AM
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Paul we understand, as some us a business menon here know the rule.Make money or go under. As for the shipping you have to puff yourself up like Amazon and the USPS. Next to nothing shipping I'm still in for Having Backbreaker in my arsonal!
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Re: Lure price increase
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04/10/18 09:34 PM
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[/b]Total synthetic products will be a thing of fact for the future no doubt.[b] That raises the question , CAN a lure such as Backbreaker or Lenon's Fox Super Range All Call, be made with all synthetic ingredients; and still be an equally effective lure ? Would the price for a 1 ounce bottle of that lure be any less than the real stuff ?
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Re: Lure price increase
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[/b]Total synthetic products will be a thing of fact for the future no doubt.[b] That raises the question , CAN a lure such as Backbreaker or Lenon's Fox Super Range All Call, be made with all synthetic ingredients; and still be an equally effective lure ? Would the price for a 1 ounce bottle of that lure be any less than the real stuff ? If luremakers start using synthetics in their lures, I would hope they change the name of the lure as there will be a lot of unhappy trappers.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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I wonder if someday lure makers will advertise a synthetic and an authentic version of the same lure? Like have the synthetic at $6 and authentic at a much higher price.
The beauty of the second amendment is it wont be needed until they try to take it. -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Lure price increase
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Begs the question that if there are a few that you really like and feel like you can't have the same success without them, then it may be time to buy in extreme bulk, directly from the maker if need be. Or start testing and learning to make your own lures.
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Re: Lure price increase
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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04/12/18 10:12 AM
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Synthetic lures have been around for along time. That guy from Canada had a whole line of synthetic lures. Some of them worked pretty good. Then we had SFE which was a very good canine lure. I think that It was developed for the government trappers back In the day. I don't know If It's even available any more. But I still have a few ounces In my shed. A little bit goes a long ways.
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Re: Lure price increase
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04/13/18 01:21 AM
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Well it's been talked about for quite a while now should've been done a year or 2 back.Everything go's up in price so why not lures?
Rick Otts
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Re: Lure price increase
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04/14/18 04:58 PM
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Synthetic attractors have been around since the early 1970's, most do not know this!
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Re: Lure price increase
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The synthetics did not hold up well, and were not as attractive as the formulas that have natural ingredients. I'd rather use tooth paste or bacon..
The good natural stuff pays for itself over and over and over. I'll pay more for the good stuff, no problem..
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