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On chemical weapons facilities in Syria. Around 100 missiles fired.

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There was already an active thread on this, but I think it got removed.

Re: Surgical strike [Re: adam m] #6216967
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Will Russia respond... We called them liars and friends of the enemy of peace loving countries... Otherwise it was a needed statement


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I doubt they will, they know they would loose

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Do you mean lose?


I got myself a seniors' GPS.
Not only does it tell me how to get to my destination,
it tells me why I wanted to go there.
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Oops, yes, I seem to misspell a lot with my phone, didn't have my reading glasses on.
Ya I started a post, watched news about half hour and post was gone, I guess someone said something wrong, idk
Syria shot 40 missiles off but none of them hit our stuff, lol

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At first I was hoping they would take out all aircraft, but I guess it would possibly prolong the civil war

Re: Surgical strike [Re: adam m] #6217020
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This is interesting:

Pompeo said in his confirmation hearing that a 'handful of weeks ago' US forces killed over a hundred Russians in Syria....or something to that effect.

I would imagine he is talking about Russian troops that are on vacation and volunteering to help Assad.


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Someone said they were mercanary soldiers, looks like Iran will own land bordering Israeli

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Russia says this was an unnecessary attack.
Last night news said civilians killed in the strike now they are saying no civilians were killed
The UN is having an emergency meeting regarding the attacks.

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Is Assad really Larry Byrd ?


Insert profound nonsense here
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Originally Posted By: Savell
Is Assad really Larry Byrd ?
Sure could be, now I like the NBA even less.... grin


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Re: Surgical strike [Re: adam m] #6217133
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Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Scuba you do know that article is satire?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Come on Danny. How stupid do you think I am. Of course I know. Just trying to cheer you folks up a tad. That whole site " the Rochdale herald " is British satire.
Don't tell Teacher though.


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Re: Surgical strike [Re: Scuba1] #6217225
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Originally Posted By: Scuba1
Come on Danny. How stupid do you think I am. Of course I know. Just trying to cheer you folks up a tad. That whole site " the Rochdale herald " is British satire.
Don't tell Teacher though.


Teacher wouldn't get it. Lol

He lives in his make believe liberal life.

Re: Surgical strike [Re: Tactical.20] #6217237
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Originally Posted By: Tactical.20

Syria shot 40 missiles off but none of them hit our stuff, lol


That's Too Bad.

But What More Would Anyone Expect Of The Soviet's (Russian) Junk Technology.


Hope Everybody Bought Stock In Raytheon And General Dynamics Cause That Volley Of Cruise Missles Cost

Us More Than A Few Ducats. LOL

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Re: Surgical strike [Re: walleyed] #6217249
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That Animal Rights Dirtbag Lunatic Moonbat Michael Savage Is Going To Have A Stroke Over This

Missle Strike. LOL

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Re: Surgical strike [Re: adam m] #6217264
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My family's been following this reporter who is on the ground in Damascus. (She was there during the attack.) Here's her facebook page if you want some info from someone who is there. https://www.facebook.com/janice.kortkamp

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Originally Posted By: Rebel Rider
My family's been following this reporter who is on the ground in Damascus. (She was there during the attack.) Here's her facebook page if you want some info from someone who is there. https://www.facebook.com/janice.kortkamp

Is that Jane Fonda's younger sister?


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Re: Surgical strike [Re: harleydparts] #6217293
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Originally Posted By: harleydparts
Originally Posted By: Rebel Rider
My family's been following this reporter who is on the ground in Damascus. (She was there during the attack.) Here's her facebook page if you want some info from someone who is there. https://www.facebook.com/janice.kortkamp

Is that Jane Fonda's younger sister?



Lol ..... Must be


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Any government that will kill it's own citizens should be dealt with . Bombing Syria is a no brainier



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Re: Surgical strike [Re: adam m] #6217302
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In the inhale, "we shouldn't be the world's policeman". On the exhale,"except when...".

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
In the inhale, "we shouldn't be the world's policeman". On the exhale,"except when...".



Someone has to do it .......... Being the greatest on earth comes with big brother responsibilities


It also provides an excellent real world military exercise and equipment test

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No, it doesnt. If gassing of women and kids bothers YOU, buy a plane ticket and go there to stop it. Quit wasting million dollar tax payer missles on mud huts.

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The U.N. is preparing a statement in response of Syria getting bich-slapped. This oughta be good.


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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
No, it doesnt. If gassing of women and kids bothers YOU, buy a plane ticket and go there to stop it. Quit wasting million dollar tax payer missles on mud huts.

Gassing people doesn't bother you?


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A few bombs is a drop in the bucket compared to the miillons we waste anyway


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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
The U.N. is preparing a statement in response of Syria getting bich-slapped. This oughta be good.

I thought using gas was against the U.N.'s rules of warfare. Why are they condemning a strike to end that? Why didn't a U.N. led force end it?


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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
No, it doesnt. If gassing of women and kids bothers YOU, buy a plane ticket and go there to stop it. Quit wasting million dollar tax payer missles on mud huts.


Yeah,

But Bill Clinton Hit A Baby Food Factory In The Sudan And Not A Word Out Of You !!! laugh

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We're just supposed to pay these ****hole countries foreign aid, then mind our own business!!


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Does gassing people bother me? No. No more than shooting someone or running them over slowly with a bulldozer, burying them alive or any other ways people kill each other. Genghis Khan rolled people up in carpets and trampled them with horses.
The more important piece than my opinion is that of following the Constitution. War is war, and calling it something else does not mean it isn't an undeclared illegal war. Many people disagreed with theach last administration's forays into the morass of the middle east, but look past this administration's same abuses.

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You should move fly , to Syria and spread your losertarian ideology to them and see what happens grin


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UN rejects Russia's bid to condemn airstrikes on Syria

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russian-reaction-syria-1.4620100

Russia has been turned down by the UN Security Council in its efforts to pass a resolution that would condemn "the aggression against Syria by the U.S. and its allies in violation of the UN charter."

Only Russia, China and Bolivia voted in favour of the draft, while nine members of the council must approve it before a full vote goes ahead. Even if the vote had been approved, the U.S., the U.K. or France would have had veto powers.

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The cards are on the table and they are clear to read this is no bluff.

We will wait and see how this unfolds.

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A bunch of folks on here threw a fit over Syrian refugees... We didn't want them here... Not our responsibility... They should fight for their own country instead of coming here and screwing up this one...

Anyone remember that?

YES, ASSAD IS A MURDERING SCUMBAG! We know that.

But if the rebels we're backing overthrow him what are the chances they'll put someone as bad or worse in his place?

We never learn. The Middle East is a political tarpit full of the bones of policy after failed American policy.

There's not one person in Syria worth an American life.

Mike


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Originally Posted By: harleydparts
Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
No, it doesnt. If gassing of women and kids bothers YOU, buy a plane ticket and go there to stop it. Quit wasting million dollar tax payer missles on mud huts.

Gassing people doesn't bother you?


fin thinks Hitler was misunderstood

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Originally Posted By: harleydparts
Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
The U.N. is preparing a statement in response of Syria getting bich-slapped. This oughta be good.

I thought using gas was against the U.N.'s rules of warfare. Why are they condemning a strike to end that? Why didn't a U.N. led force end it?


I agree. I don't know that they will condemn it, but my guess is they will. They want U.S. money, but everything else about the U.S is bad to them.


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Nramemb, would it have been less of a holocaust if Hitler had killed the Jews in a more socially accepted manner? If not, your comment makes no sense.

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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
No, it doesnt. If gassing of women and kids bothers YOU, buy a plane ticket and go there to stop it. Quit wasting million dollar tax payer missles on mud huts.


Mud huts are a great place to store gasses..


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Why don't we just end it all over in the Middle East? Bomb it all. Forget the money we give to all the apes over there! Excluding Isreal.

Now what?

Will



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Originally Posted By: Rebel Rider
My family's been following this reporter who is on the ground in Damascus. (She was there during the attack.) Here's her facebook page if you want some info from someone who is there. https://www.facebook.com/janice.kortkamp


Her page has disappeared. How convenient.

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Originally Posted By: Nate Dawg
Originally Posted By: Rebel Rider
My family's been following this reporter who is on the ground in Damascus. (She was there during the attack.) Here's her facebook page if you want some info from someone who is there. https://www.facebook.com/janice.kortkamp


Her page has disappeared. How convenient.
Must have gotten advice from her sister Jane Fonda.


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Originally Posted By: Hoppytrapsfur
Why don't we just end it all over in the Middle East? Bomb it all. Forget the money we give to all the apes over there! Excluding Isreal.

Now what?

Will


Yes. End it all or stay out completely.

Mike


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Originally Posted By: AntiGov
Any government that will kill it's own citizens should be dealt with . Bombing Syria is a no brainier




Well were those kids gassed or some of the ones caught up in the strikes? Anytime bombs be dropping innocents be dying. While the hole gas thing is horrid, I would love to see proof Assad did it, I mean we said hey we're leaving! All sudden gas attack? Assad knows good and well we will stay if he drops gas attacks, he has nothing to win by doing so?? He is not an idiot. Anytime we start a policy innocents get gassed, Assad has nothing to gain by gassing his people, except our missles falling on him and our continued involvement? That he doesn't want.


Something shady about this entire deal ---


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Originally Posted By: JakeDog
Well were those kids gassed or some of the ones caught up in the strikes? Anytime bombs be dropping innocents be dying. While the hole gas thing is horrid, I would love to see proof Assad did it, I mean we said hey we're leaving! All sudden gas attack? Assad knows good and well we will stay if he drops gas attacks, he has nothing to win by doing so?? He is not an idiot. Anytime we start a policy innocents get gassed, Assad has nothing to gain by gassing his people, except our missles falling on him and our continued involvement? That he doesn't want.

Something shady about this entire deal ---

Exactly. There are also terrorist groups over there being funded by the US who have a lot to gain if the US gets more involved, so they're the ones who have a reason to show images of civilians being gassed. If you start looking at alternate news sources, like ones coming out of Syria, there's a lot of info on it.

And the rest of you need to do a little more research on Syria. It wasn't a third world country until the war started, and even now, it's not "mud huts."
Sorry if the link's not working for you guys. It's working fine for me.

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Nramemb, would it have been less of a holocaust if Hitler had killed the Jews in a more socially accepted manner? If not, your comment makes no sense.


The point I was making was Hitler could and should of been stopped long before he was.

no different then a good guy with a gun taking out a bad guy with a gun.

Most of what you post on here makes no sense.

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A difficult call. On the one hand, we should mind our own business, like Finn says.

On the other hand, I'm not ready to stand by when atrocities are committed. There is a reason that poison gas is banned by the international rules of warfare. Being gassed is a particularly hideous way to die.

I think the US, Britain, and France did the right thing. Too bad they didn't take out any Russians.

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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
A bunch of folks on here threw a fit over Syrian refugees... We didn't want them here... Not our responsibility... They should fight for their own country instead of coming here and screwing up this one...

Anyone remember that?

YES, ASSAD IS A MURDERING SCUMBAG! We know that.

But if the rebels we're backing overthrow him what are the chances they'll put someone as bad or worse in his place?

We never learn. The Middle East is a political tarpit full of the bones of policy after failed American policy.

There's not one person in Syria worth an American life.

Mike

I do remember that and I was and am one that still believes it. But - two of your neighbors are having a property dispute, we expect them to settle it between themselves not run over to my home and get me involved and screw up my life. But then one of the neighboring men decide to beat up the other neighbors wife & kids, now I'm involved. Period. A very silly example I admit but where do we draw the line between not wanting to get involved in someone else's disputes & going 'oh crap, that's just to much'? I don't have the answers.


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It's a tough call. Let folks settle their own disputes or when murder is involved should we step in.
There's murder that takes place every day in the U.S.A. and is allowed by law. I don't agree with it and would love to see it abolished. but I suppose the american people support this form of murder. I guess the majority would also support an/or not give a darn about Syria's form of murder.

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Should've used 1 bomb the MOAB and really put the fear in them

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Originally Posted By: J Staton
It's a tough call. Let folks settle their own disputes or when murder is involved should we step in.
There's murder that takes place every day in the U.S.A. and is allowed by law. I don't agree with it and would love to see it abolished. but I suppose the american people support this form of murder. I guess the majority would also support an/or not give a darn about Syria's form of murder.


For sure a tough call. We are at the mercy of our government on making good choices as we by far don't know the whole story.

I think the people in that country don't have the means to do anything on their own. I would bet their country is split on radical and vulnerable.

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Originally Posted By: adam m
Should've used 1 bomb the MOAB and really put the fear in them


Striking to take away the means to deliver and the chemical weapons themselves is one thing. Flattening half a town and killing a bunch of civilians is quite another. Young children for the most part are innocent, at least to the time when they get into the hands of teachers. After that all bets are off, what their beliefs may be.


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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
A bunch of folks on here threw a fit over Syrian refugees... We didn't want them here... Not our responsibility... They should fight for their own country instead of coming here and screwing up this one...

Anyone remember that?

YES, ASSAD IS A MURDERING SCUMBAG! We know that.

But if the rebels we're backing overthrow him what are the chances they'll put someone as bad or worse in his place?

We never learn. The Middle East is a political tarpit full of the bones of policy after failed American policy.

There's not one person in Syria worth an American life.

Mike

I do remember that and I was and am one that still believes it. But - two of your neighbors are having a property dispute, we expect them to settle it between themselves not run over to my home and get me involved and screw up my life. But then one of the neighboring men decide to beat up the other neighbors wife & kids, now I'm involved. Period. A very silly example I admit but where do we draw the line between not wanting to get involved in someone else's disputes & going 'oh crap, that's just to much'? I don't have the answers.


If we stopped the neighbor from beating the other neighbor's wife and kids once and settled it for good we might be OK...

The problem is that we help the victim neighbor push the bully neighbor out. And then the victim neighbor decides to turn into the bully neighbor.

We propped up the Shah in Iran. He was such a corrupt scumbag that the Iranian people felt they'd be better off with the Ayatollahs...

So to fix that little foulup we propped up Saddam Hussein. He was a murdering psychopathic dictator that we wound up having to depose...

We helped depose Khadaffi. But Libya didn't turn into a Southern Mediterranean vacation destination after Muammar got bounced out...

So now we are backing rebels to fight Assad... If they manage to oust Assad what kind of leader will the rebels replace Assad with?

It turns into a hornet's nest every time. The CIA needs a new playbook.

Mike


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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town


So now we are backing rebels to fight Assad... If they manage to oust Assad what kind of leader will the rebels replace Assad with?

It turns into a hornet's nest every time. The CIA needs a new playbook.

Mike

We'd probably replace him with someone worse like the murderous radicals in Saudi Arabia that we support. The US track record is terrible. From what I've read, the Christians in Syria are taking the side of the government, because Assad's the only one who doesn't want them dead.
Here's a different article I found. https://jamesperloff.com/2018/03/30/a-syrian-christian-reveals-what-is-really-happening-in-syria/

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The Saudi's are bombing civilians like its in style in Yemen.


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I'm not particularly opposed to bombing to stop the use of chemical weapons... But I doubt we will be able to maintain our involvement at just that level.

Somewhere along the way Syria/Russia will strike back at us and/or the coalition. And we'll have another Gulf of Tonkin and escalate our involvement from that point.

I do not see a positive long-term outcome from our involvement.

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Should've used 1 bomb the MOAB and really put the fear in them


Striking to take away the means to deliver and the chemical weapons themselves is one thing. Flattening half a town and killing a bunch of civilians is quite another. Young children for the most part are innocent, at least to the time when they get into the hands of teachers. After that all bets are off, what their beliefs may be.


True. If the Chem facilties were far enough way from civilians I don't see a problem with the moab being used.

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And then what gets me is they are saying that Russia is acting like a rogue nation?? Russia hasn't gone to war with anyone other than the Syrian terrorists, and Ukraine but who would want another NATO base on their border? How many wars do we have functioning right now? Iraq? Aphganistan? We did Lybia? Starting Syria? (My spelling is atrocious I know it already!) all in the name of saving the world.

How many elections around the world have we been monkeying with trying to alter the outcomes? But we get bent saying someone messed with ours. before we point fingers about who is rogue we might want to clean out own doorstep.

We need to focus up on our people and leaves these countries be? We have crippled them up bad enough now not to bother us for awhile. Get back to MAGA --- forget the rest of the world let them go cannibal --

Rant sounds Anti American and I hate that and I promise it isn't BUT our politicians are playing us for fools - all of them - all the democrats and all the republicans. There is not but one party anymore,

Not one life over in Syria is worth any more of our kids lives - - unless we are taking the country securing its land and resources for ourselves then we stay out of it. They have NO clear goals set for any mess we are in right now and they are just meat grinders we keep sending our kids to for no real gain or purpose.

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Originally Posted By: Marty
The Saudi's are bombing civilians like its in style in Yemen.



With weapon's and intel provided by the US and not 1 word out of the US media about it.

They have presented no evidence that Assad committed the "alleged" gas attack to the American people. I guess we have not learned anything from those WMD's in Iraq.

The sources for claims about the alleged attack come from pro-rebel groups, including those who have aligned themselves with Salafi-leaning militias like the hard-line Jaysh al-Islam (or the Army of Islam) backed by Saudi Arabia. Sounds credible. crazy Also kinda of fishy this happen's right after Trump announces we are going to pull our troops out of Syria.

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Another thing against using a MOAB or five is the problem of getting the C130's safely there and back. Ya can't just strap that thing under the wing of a F18


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Looks like a few of you have some good info.

I'm curious, why are threads like this allowed? I thought there was a no politics rule, but I see a lot of political stuff that isn't trapping related.

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Originally Posted By: Rebel Rider
Looks like a few of you have some good info.

I'm curious, why are threads like this allowed? I thought there was a no politics rule, but I see a lot of political stuff that isn't trapping related.


Trapper talk doesn't have to be trapping releated

Current events are ok until someone gets butt hurt , then the AXE comes out

Gotta keep it civil

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