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Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221037
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Because I have that choice!

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221050
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Originally Posted By: SleekOtter
Can anybody give me a well-thought explanation as to why just because a business does not support one's political beliefs that they stop patronizing it? I understand some businesses not supporting our Constitutional rights because those are fundamental and a pretty big deal.

My concern is when say a little ma and pop store or say a clothing company lets it slip that they endorse the Democratic party, or maybe somebody finds out an owner or CEO had an abortion. Maybe they are anti-hunting or support homosexuals. Why should the business suffer just because of the political alignment?

I honestly could not care less about the political standpoint of a company if they make a quality product that serves the intended purpose. Make great boots that are bulletproof but the CEO funded Hillary Clinton. Who cares? Ma and Pa General Store makes great sandwiches for your lunch and are always friendly but you found out recently they do not support trappers? Who cares?

I get that in a very roundabout way you are "funding against yourself" by purchasing from them but a business needs to cover overhead and several other expenses before they can start to pay for a Democrat's campaign or PETA's crusade against hunters. Honestly, the amount of money you are refusing to spend probably pale in comparison anyway to what makes a measurable difference. If a product is worthwhile and brings me 100% satisfaction then why should I deprive myself of it and them of the money just to find an inferior product for the sake of proving a point or the principle of it?

I'm Conservative and bleed red white and blue like most of you on here but I think people have started to go too far lately in proving their political allegiance.


What you are asking about here are businesses being punished for the private thoughts of the owners/employees...and not endorsements made in the name of the business. Why does this happen. The answer is pretty simple: because people who pretend to love this country, really hate it. They can't tolerate the free thought of others. These types can be found on the extreme left and extreme right.

Re: Loss of support [Re: Boco] #6221060
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Originally Posted By: Boco
Put whatever spin on it you want,you"er a democracy since you have democratic elections.


Some are, some arent.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221063
04/18/18 08:04 PM
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Ive always not done business with company's i deem not worthy of my dollars, way way back before it was the thing to do.

Why support someone who is against everything im for?


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Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221068
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Re: Loss of support [Re: warrior] #6221076
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Originally Posted By: warrior
Hey Boco, newsflash the United States is not a democracy. It's a representative republic.


This is just a silly statement. First of all "representative republic" is redundant. Secondly, a republic is still a form of government under the umbrella of democracy. To argue otherwise is uneducated.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221085
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Those companies you choose to turn a blind eye to will in turn take your money and bend you over ( figuratively ) by funding all kinds of political agendas that destroy your freedoms and promote liberalism

They bank on people not taking a stand , and will laugh in your face if you do

You can choose not to concern yourself with seemingly trivial issues , but then you can't complain with the eventual results

Think of it as voting with your wallet

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Re: Loss of support [Re: pass-thru] #6221092
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Originally Posted By: pass-thru
Originally Posted By: warrior
Hey Boco, newsflash the United States is not a democracy. It's a representative republic.


This is just a silly statement. First of all "representative republic" is redundant. Secondly, a republic is still a form of government under the umbrella of democracy. To argue otherwise is uneducated.


Not quite...more than a few governments call themselves republics, but are basically dictatorships or one-party rule states. We've went to far on the path of going towards a democracy and away from a republic.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221138
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Acceptance is killing this country. I am proud to separate my self from people and businesses that don't share my views.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SNIPERBBB] #6221145
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Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB
[quote=pass-thru]
Not quite...more than a few governments call themselves republics, but are basically dictatorships or one-party rule states. We've went to far on the path of going towards a democracy and away from a republic.


I can run around calling myself a "cat" but hat won't make me a cat. A republic is a democracy where people elect representatives that form the government. Democracy is government by the people, typically through elected representatives. See the overlap.

The parliamentary system also has elected representatives, but if there is still a monarch it is not a republic.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221165
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It is my belief that we are a constitutional republic...In a true democracy the elected officials wouldn't be bound by the constitution....Wait a minute, heck the way the politicians ignore the constitution, we may be a democracy after all!


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Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221209
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I have never smoked but grew up in a family who depended on tobacco farming. I very much dislike tobacco but I own stock in a tobacco company that pays an excellent dividend.

A lot of people vote their pocketbook at election time when their livelyhood is at risk.

Re: Loss of support [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #6221293
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Originally Posted By: ky_coyote_hunter
It is my belief that we are a constitutional republic...In a true democracy the elected officials wouldn't be bound by the constitution....Wait a minute, heck the way the politicians ignore the constitution, we may be a democracy after all!

It looks like to me that Boco unwittingly hit the nail on the head. With the gradual dilution of our constitutional republic rule of laws, we have become a democracy where 2 coyotes and a lamb vote on what's for dinner.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221300
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Why would I fund anyone that wants to destroy my way of life.

Re: Loss of support [Re: 52Carl] #6221317
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Originally Posted By: ky_coyote_hunter
It is my belief that we are a constitutional republic...In a true democracy the elected officials wouldn't be bound by the constitution....Wait a minute, heck the way the politicians ignore the constitution, we may be a democracy after all!

It looks like to me that Boco unwittingly hit the nail on the head. With the gradual dilution of our constitutional republic rule of laws, we have become a democracy where 2 coyotes and a lamb vote on what's for dinner.
Precisely, not exactly what the founding fathers envisioned IMO.


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Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221560
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Re: Loss of support [Re: pcr2] #6221579
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Originally Posted By: pcr2
i refuse to support my enemies.if a like minded person doesn't have it,i don't need it.a lot of people would rather turn a blind eye to make life easier.the easy way will kill both sides eventually though.

Those you disagree with are not your enemies. That mentality does away with any chance of having a civil discussion.

Re: Loss of support [Re: SleekOtter] #6221588
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I disagree with anti trappers and they are my enemy anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded.

Re: Loss of support [Re: Cole semo] #6221629
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Originally Posted By: Cole semo
Originally Posted By: pcr2
i refuse to support my enemies.if a like minded person doesn't have it,i don't need it.a lot of people would rather turn a blind eye to make life easier.the easy way will kill both sides eventually though.

Those you disagree with are not your enemies. That mentality does away with any chance of having a civil discussion.


Let's see here, I disagree with the progressive agenda that I am constantly bombarded with about LGBT, illegal immigrants, race, PC, anti hunting-fishing-trapping and my second amendment rights. Anyone that promotes those things is darn sure my enemy, I'll have nothing to do with them or their business's and I could care less about having a civil discussion with them. They have values that are contrary to everything I believe in, they want to destroy my way of life, that sounds like a pretty good definition for my enemies.

Re: Loss of support [Re: Cole semo] #6221633
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Originally Posted By: Cole semo
Originally Posted By: pcr2
i refuse to support my enemies.if a like minded person doesn't have it,i don't need it.a lot of people would rather turn a blind eye to make life easier.the easy way will kill both sides eventually though.

Those you disagree with are not your enemies. That mentality does away with any chance of having a civil discussion.


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