Re: Radar detectors
[Re: SleekOtter]
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04/20/18 04:40 PM
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The rules of evidence aren't comparable between murder and a vehicle search? They cover all criminal violations, so yeah they are comparable. You've radicalized the argument
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: SleekOtter]
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04/20/18 08:02 PM
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Mike in A-town
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The rules of evidence aren't comparable between murder and a vehicle search? They cover all criminal violations, so yeah they are comparable. So if I jaywalk they can confiscate my shoes? Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 07:45 AM
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I seem to get warnings or just flashing lights when I brake for cops when speeding. You know, stroking your ego.
Help yourself.
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Re: Radar detectors
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04/21/18 08:38 AM
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I have one and I don't speed. It keeps me from speeding, when I am not paying attention. I would like it better if you asked instead of told them to take it form under their seat. Of course they could just not answer you and leave it there. I have never taken a radar detector but I can promise you they didn't get a warning. funny to watch the speeding vehicle go from 85 to 55 with the front bumper darn near on the road surface. They aren't illegal here but it is prima fascia evidence of ones intent to travel above the posted speed limits. I just write the ticket and tell them to pull that screaming thing out from under their seat. The smart thing about operating a radar when conducting traffic enforcement is to leave the darn thing on hold. If you have gone through the radar training school you get real good at judging vehicle speeds both sitting stationary and running moving radar. Wait until they separate from traffic or if they are the only vehicle and hit the activate switch, that's when the bumper drags the pavement.
I don't get out on the street much anymore so there is no chance of me writing a citation. I do have to go out to all fatality scenes per policy. You may can control your vehicle at 100 mph but you cant control those external variables that will end your life real quick and fast when doing so.
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 08:43 AM
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danny clifton
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I don't have a problem with traffic regulation enforcement. I make a living driving and the job is tough even with enforcement. Lots and lots of drivers out there with no judgement of what's safe at all. I wouldn't care but their inability to maintain a speed, maintain a lane, or even signal a turn or lane change, endangers every one on the road with them.
What chaps my but is the stolen car story. "It's a civil mater" translated to English means "I'm lazy and don't want to do my job".
Wife was in the local convenience store talking to the clerk who is a friend of hers. Scam artist handed her a fake credit card and got a pump turned on. Clerk noticed it was fake when he drove off. My wife followed him. Called in a tag and location, direction and description. She was told to quit following. She didn't. Kept telling dispatch where they were and asking where the deputies were. This went on for about 20 minutes before she quit following. Driver was never even questioned let alone arrested. So now you know why you stand in line twice to fill your vehicle if paying with cash.
Burglary is treated the same. No investigation. Just a police report so you can file an insurance claim.
Police priorities have changed over the years and not for the better IMO.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 09:41 AM
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I have one and I don't speed. It keeps me from speeding, when I am not paying attention . I as well. Most time its not used locally. On a long trip it keeps me from speeding. Then there's the cruise control helps.
Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 11:18 AM
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Made it. 6hrs 2 min
Last 70 miles was fuzzy with revenue generators
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 11:23 AM
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Glad ya got there ok Gov, best wishes for your Dad and all your family.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 11:43 AM
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Danny, It's not always what the cop wants to do but CAN do. Cops have bosses that often time dictate how things are done. This includes political beings, city and county attorneys (that will dictate what gets charged...or Not,
Nobody getting into a chase over a gas drive off. About all gas stations have surveillance now anyhow so they already know who it is. Most bigger companies have a "team" designated to handle their loss and prosecution (and yes, many states attorneys consider this "civil"). Police are forbidden to get involved with "civil law". Same things "should" occur over a "stolen car" most times (but don't). A lot of guys will chase a stolen to the ends of the earth. When you pull dead kids out of a Stolen (property crime...$50 fine in many cities) you get a different perspective of what you are doing (hopefully). Was it really worth this guy t boning a minivan over a "citation" (in many locations)????
Depending on the agency, most all burglaries are triaged to some point. Simply put, usually more burglaries than investigators to handle them (locations differs of course). So, it will depend on the Loss and any chance of catching them (evidence etc). Some, it's very easy to tell there is nothing to go on (or prosecutable (attorneys call)...so yeah, it becomes a report for your insurance. But of course, and with life, you will get people who are just lazy....And That happens too.
These little scenarios can go on and on and on...but always a "bigger picture" involved that what most see on the surface.
And NO...I sure don't like the direction its going either. But most times these calls aren't made by the patrolman....good or bad, I guess.
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Re: Radar detectors
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04/21/18 11:55 AM
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danny clifton
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There is no bigger picture beyond the FACT that those things used to be a priority and now they are not. I don't really care what excuses are being bandied about. Want to know why so many have a low opinion of LE? That is a biggy. Add in stuff like the cop in Wichita not being prosecuted or identified for killing an unarmed man, in his own home, and YOU will start to see the "bigger picture".
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 11:57 AM
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Calvin
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See what I get for trying to explain 20 years of street experience (at night) to a guy holed up on a computer?
Get outside...You'll feel better.
Good day, Sir.
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Re: Radar detectors
[Re: AntiGov]
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04/21/18 12:04 PM
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Mike in A-town
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What could be more of a civil matter than a domestic dispute? But they'll roll 2 cruisers for one of those.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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