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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: AJE] #6234155
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Originally Posted By: AJE
Strange thing is, it's obvious to some, and it unfortunately drives some good folks away from tMan, yet the moderators are ok with it.

What do you think that means?

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: AJE] #6234156
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Originally Posted By: AJE
It miffs me too. Makes me want to sign up my sibling and nephews, actually.

It's quite possible some of them may actually be undercover anti's, coming on here just to try to dissuade people.

That would be an interesting position for an anti-gun impersonator to take, that of wanting LESS gun laws than the pro-gun control club (and both major policy parties) espouse.

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: FlyinFinn] #6234167
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It would make a good cover story.


Eh...wot?

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: FlyinFinn] #6234172
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Does the NRA support background checks, whether or not the state has permit to carry or constitutional carry? I admit I may be ignorant as my state has a permit to purchase and a permit to carry or vice versa (maybe both). Regardless, here you need to have walking papers from your betters to either own or carry a concealed pistol. I haven't bought a firearm from a commercial dealer in 15 years.

To answer your first question, yes, the NRA not only supports it and is now advocating to "fix" it, they claim responsibility for coming up with it.
Pro gun NRA advocating gun control.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Catch22] #6234174
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Originally Posted By: Catch22
Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Does the NRA support background checks, whether or not the state has permit to carry or constitutional carry? I admit I may be ignorant as my state has a permit to purchase and a permit to carry or vice versa (maybe both). Regardless, here you need to have walking papers from your betters to either own or carry a concealed pistol. I haven't bought a firearm from a commercial dealer in 15 years.

To answer your first question, yes, the NRA not only supports it and is now advocating to "fix" it, they claim responsibility for coming up with it.
Pro gun NRA advocating gun control.


We had back-ground checks before this if your old enough to remember.

So, what that is, is the NRA speeding them up by advocating for it to be "instant".

Not a bad move if they couldn't get rid of it.

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6234179
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Why would an anti-gun person need a cover story here? I read in the forum rules that anti-trappers aren't allowed, and that discussion on the second amendment was allowed.

Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6234183
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Hippie, I don't remember anything before 93, do you? And really lol, that's what you took away from that link?


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6234185
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LOL, sadly i do. i'd have been 31

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Yes, that's what i got from it. I remember waiting 3 days for a background check. So yea, the NRA did us a favor by getting it to be instant.

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: hippie] #6234190
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LOL, sadly i do. i'd have been 31

LOL! No, I was referring to what you said about back round checks before 93. That's when the Brady bill with the NRA nics was introduced which is what was in the link and you said we had them before that.


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: hippie] #6234192
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Yes, that's what i got from it. I remember waiting 3 days for a background check. So yea, the NRA did us a favor by getting it to be instant.

They didn't want to get rid of it lol, they are the ones who invented it.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Lets see..............

Before NICS, we waited 3 days.
After NICS, We got our gun instant.

I wonder why the NRA claims the glory for this bill?

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Wonder why the anti's want the waiting period back?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/us/politics/supreme-court-waiting-period-gun-purchases.html

Cali. still has one.

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: hippie] #6234200
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Originally Posted By: hippie
Lets see..............

Before NICS, we waited 3 days.
After NICS, We got our gun instant.

I wonder why the NRA claims the glory for this bill?

I believe SCOTUS got the credit for that.


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6234204
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before insta check you waited till you finished filling out the form created in 68 and your gun was paid for. that's it. where you coming up with a 3 day wait?


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Here's a good write-up saying about modern ways to speed up checks, which the NICS also did.

Shortly after NICS, Pa. ditched the 3 day wait if you had a cc permit and passed this check.

http://archive.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/292226261.html

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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: danny clifton] #6234218
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
before insta check you waited till you finished filling out the form created in 68 and your gun was paid for. that's it. where you coming up with a 3 day wait?

The Brady Bill and I think it was a 5 day wait.


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Re: Wasting our time and money ya right! [Re: Law Dog] #6234221
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IL had a cooling off period they liked to call it back when I was there.


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Different states had different wait periods. Ours was 3 day.

NICS gave the NRA a vehicle to push for the elimination of the waits since it was "instant".

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The Brady bill had a five day waiting period. If I recall correctly, it was only for handguns


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