Hi,
For a long time I've been looking for a bait recipe for predators that is not to hard to make and is half decently cheap, I can't find ANY! Please give me your ideas on which bait solutions are best and what to mix with them! Can you mix JUST meat with them? If you have any suggestions on what to mix with bait solution let me know, please

Thanks everyone!

On this page above "Dobbins product catalog"

Easy bait. Rat or mice. Grind up in cheap blender till u get about 12 oz of it. Add 1 drop skunk essence(optional), 1/2 tbs of beaver lure(like Backbreaker), and about tbs of mineral oil. Then add your bait solution or preservative

That would be very yummy to coyote or fox if the Rat or mice was set out to taint for couple weeks after grinding and then adding the preservative and good stuff mentioned. Any rat glands, fox or coyote glands would not hurt the mixture.

Is that a predator bait recipe?

Yes

easier yet grind up a gallon mice taint one week in 70-80 degree weather add 1 cup of pickling salt 6oz glycerine 1/2 cup of quality fox urine and a pint of honey. age one month ready to use. works on all predators

I too have some Dobbin's Bait Solution, glycerin, urines, and a big bag of boned bobcat meat.

I have no clue on how to put it, or any other easy recipe, together.

Honey would be good except personally I would each too much before it hit the bait.

Yeah heard that lol

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/37/1/Lure_and_Bait_Formulator_s_for.html

Should be what you are looking for there.

Here's one of mine from there...

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2538049/Basic_Predator_Bait_Making?

For my Bait Solution - grind or chop up your cat meat. If you chop it up, make the pieces no larger than a hickory nut - the size of the nut without the hull. Let the meat taint to the degree of taint you want, if you taint it at all. Make sure you do this in a manner that flies will not get to the meat. Add bait solution to the meat. Dissolve the packet of sodium benzoate in a cup of warm water and add this to the meat/bait solution and stir thoroughly. Make sure no flies can get to it. Stir once a day for a week to ten days. If you have the meat in chunks it will take longer for the sodium benzoate to penetrate to the center of the chunks to kill the bacteria than if it is ground. Once the ten days or so have passed, the bait can be sealed, since there will be no more gas being given off by the bait.

that bait has worked flawless for numerous years

Sounds like a fine recipe thanks for sharing Tony

Oh wow, I feel honored. The MAN answered my question. Thank you Paul.

Let me ask this, once I do this, and it gives me around a gallon of (I guess you might call it) generalized bait, do I then take small jars of like 12oz to make into somewhat specialized baits? I.E., add a drop of skunk, some beaver castor, etc...?

Thank you
Chad

Chad you can do whatever you want with it once it's done. It can be fun to experiment. Keep records of what and how much you added to the specialized baits. That way if one of them really outperforms everything else, you can duplicate it.

OP, I hope that you don't mind me asking questions. Your thread will help both of us as well as many beginners.

I also have beef liver, beef tongue, beef heart, steelhead carcass, and steelhead eggs.

Thank you very much Paul. Now to search for tainting methods to keep flies out. I have 2 one gallon glass jars to use.

If you don't have an Airlock, you can lay a pc of glass over the top of the glass jar. Gas can escape but flies cant get it.

I'll look for an airlock. That's a great idea but I wouldn't want a stray cat getting into it.

I like using plastic buckets for tainting. Glass can break if the lid is on too tight. Some folks put the end of a tube through the lid and the other end weighted down in a container of water. You might want to calk where the tube goes into the lid if you don't have an airtight seal. This allows the gas to vent into the water while giving no place for flies to gain access to the meat. Some like to put one of those aquarium aerators on the end of the tube.

I simply put the lid on the plastic bucket and place a weight on the lid. As the gas builds up, it escapes around the seal and the weight on top of the lid puts enough pressure on it to keep any gaps from forming that will let flies in. Sometimes I will find fly eggs around the bucket lid, so I wipe them off good before opening the bucket.

TheBig1 you mention you have "I also have beef liver, beef tongue, beef heart, steelhead carcass, and steelhead eggs." I've not liked baits made with Beef Tonque or Beef heart. Now the liver, steelhead carcass and steelhead eggs would be some good stuff all ground up together. Definitely keep the flies out or it is garbage.

Thank you Paul and John. Looks like I've got some fun in my future.

bucket inside of a bucket or a old dead freeze ive had to many dogs chew off my air stones

I saved meat from 4 beaver caught this spring think I will try to make bait out of that.

Mine go in my "stinky shed" where no dogs can get to my concoctions, and I have climate control.

I sure am different from a lot of these folks. I assume you want something inexpensive ALONG with simple from a modern standpoint. Here are 2 of mine: 1.) Go to the grocery store and purchase 2 lbs. of chicken livers (on sale if you can) or gizzards will work, but I have more luck with the livers, as both are cut to about the right size for the "hole" trappers. Use fresh or taint to your liking. 2.) Go to your own freezer and get some game you forgot about and is freezer burned. Cut into your bait size pieces. Buy some cheap milk and soak the game (rabbit, squirrel, deer etc. etc.) in the milk for 24 hours in the fridge (tell the wife you are trying to save it from being wasted). Re-bag and freeze/store until trapping season. If you taint this it will go fast with the milk base so you decide what you want. I use them fresh in the fall, as it saves a step. Does not have the "Mystery or Mystique" of the above recipes but a lot more simple and it works for me. My take. --the mike

I've had great luck on coyotes with chopped beaver and Dobbins' Bait Solution. Nothing else added but you sure can. Another simple one is Jack Mackerel. Go here and enter Jack Mackerel in the Trapperman search box for a bunch of reading.

The recipe from Hershberger's book is 2 cans of Jack Mackerel, 1/4 ounce tincture of asafoetida (get that from Paul here) and enough honey to make a paste. Mash up the mackerel, stir it all together and it's done.

You can also drill a 1/4" hole and tape 3 or 4 layers of scrap flannel shirt over it, as taught in Nick Wyshinski's book.

Personally, I use lil aquarium air stones, and keep critters away from it.

How can that happen when the bucket sposd to be in the old dead freezer?.........where your dogs can't get to it?

It seems as though this bait making deal isn't as hard as I/someone might think that it is. It seems as though once you do it once you learn that in reality it is pretty easy.

Now I'm not taking anything away from the professional bait makers, their skills and time spent testing speak for themselves.

All that I'm saying is that for someone who's never done it, we might be over thinking it due to having never done it as well as our complete misunderstanding of what the term "Bait" truly means. We might be thinking that we have to make something as complex as the professionals when in reality that's not the case at all.

I read of a guy that bought frozen chicken wings, legs, etc from grocery store and was succesful at catching canines.

The majority of the live market trappers down here just use chicken leg quarters. Some of them are catching 100+ a year

Somethings work and somethings work better. My understanding is in high population areas where theres high competition for food its harder to see the difference between better stuff and the average stuff. A Person has to try stuff and test stuff to find out what works best for them. There's a lot of studies done by the government to try and find out what works and what works better when it comes to coyotes if a person wants to look into it.

Thanks Blak Spot.

How much bait solution?

It depends.
Follow the directions of the maker of your solution, easy peasy.
Pauls and Jamesons is 1 pt / gal meat but Blackies and Clints are different, I think.
Pauls already has SB in it to stop the taint/preserve and other don't.
That's the beauty of using a commercial solution...the recipes are already figured out...and the maker will tell you how to use their solution.

If you don't have a gallon of meat, no problem, just reduce the ratio's accordingly.

I think, in another thread, you said you bought Reuswatts (sp) so I'd ask him, if it didn't come with instructions.

this as before the freezer buckets stored In the shed and door was left open

ive since then started using 5 gallon oil buckets. They have a rubber o ring in the lids! Prevents flys from getting in and lets gass out. Fly eggs will develop around the seam I just wipe it down with bleach kills eggs, and slows flys down

I think on the second page I got a loooooong list of recipes

Simplest bait recipe you’ll ever see.


Take some red meat and throw it in the bottom of a hole.

Bingo bango!

https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6146978/Re:_TMAN_SCRAPBOOK_!_Snaring_I#Post6146978

beef, beaver, bobcat, feral cat, rats, mice, chicken, even livers make good baits

What? Wait...thats too simple...

I tried a predator bait recipe that I got off of youtube. I used it this year on coyote sets, seemed to do well enough for me. Its blue cheese dressing mixed with what ever meat you want, I used pork.
Here is the link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jliq3ELw3aI

Bacon & eggs is both good in the right set and simple too. Sardines right out of the can or Campbell's Pork & Beans have both caught predators.

Here in the northeast every fox or coyote has eaten on a pile of deer guts. They expect human smell around them, heck many have paper towels or rubber gloves laying on them. Take the contents of a deer's rumen (stomach) as long as it does not contain corn or acorns (that will attract rodents), and mix it with the blood from inside a deer's body cavity. The more it sours the better. Use a golf ball size amount for each set. Especially good in early winter, after deer season.

Nailed it ... ala natural

the more I formulate the more I come back to simple two ingredient mixs! Deer and pure quill road kill that's 4-5 days old grind course. 1/2 tsp eccense per gallon of meat no preservative maybe a pint of vegetable oil to keep it loose and pastey if its a warm season by the end its super loud! I prefer my deer to be green just under the skin! Its the one thing I find the yotes here find interst in during our never ending deer seasons! I start watching the ditchs in mid october

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Thanks wolfdog!!

This. When I switched from "store bought" bait to chunks of fresh meat,( deer, beaver, muskrat, rabbit) my catch rate doubled , almost tripled.