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#6239329 - 05/13/18 02:55 PM which air rifle?
white marlin Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 2016
Loc: SW PA
need "minute-of-sparrow breast" accuracy at 20 yards, without breaking the bank. thinking $150 or less.

or is a .410 the better option? will be dusting English sparrows off a bluebird box and don't want to destroy that, though. (no experience with a .410)

what do you guys recommend?

Thanks!
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#6239331 - 05/13/18 03:06 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
TRapper Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1291
Loc: Central IA
We shoot a benjamin 392 in a .22 caliber...doesnt blow thru sparrow at 450 fps
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#6239364 - 05/13/18 03:46 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
BigBob Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 14158
Loc: St. Louis Co, Mo
I use a RWS 45, 1K fpm, in .17, works great, can head shoot squirrels @ 150 ft, but a bit more than $150. Open sights? If you put a scope on it, make sure to get one rated for the unique 2 stage recoil of an air rifle.
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#6239365 - 05/13/18 03:47 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
white marlin Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
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Loc: SW PA
appreciate the reply.

plenty accurate at 20 yards?
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#6239472 - 05/13/18 06:17 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
Jim Bethell Online   content
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1072
Loc: Woodhull, Illinois 74
I shot a crossman nitro piston in .17 cal.. Shoot pigeons inside buildings at 50 ft. Comes with a scope at around $170.00. Got mine a few years ago for $129.00.

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#6239753 - 05/14/18 05:39 AM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
LBEE Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 342
Loc: Missouri
I shoot a 22 Caliber with CB Caps or Silent 22 Shells very accurate & low Velocity ....not much noise.

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#6239902 - 05/14/18 09:04 AM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
WCT Offline
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Registered: 01/27/13
Posts: 17
Loc: OH
For what you're looking at, check out a Crosman, Winchester or Ruger multipump air rifle from Walmart, Target, or some other discount store ($49 - $89). These will have more than enough energy to kill a sparrow (only requires around 2 fpe) and will have the accuracy as well out to 20 yards with the right pellet. Start with the domed (or diabolo) style as these will give the best accuracy.

I'd stay away from CO2 and break barrel air rifles as accuracy can be an issue based on pellet, weather conditions, and how you're holding the air rifle. Also, I'd look at putting money into a better scope (you can get a good CenterPoint or Leapers with an AO for under $80) and don't forget the rings.

For those doing this professionally I recommending using a PCP (precharged pneumatic) over a multipump. Of course, the exception is the Benjamin 392 for strictly bird work inside of stores but that's the cheap option as there are better models on the market but they do come with a much higher price tag.
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#6240155 - 05/14/18 05:45 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
white marlin Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 2016
Loc: SW PA
appreciate all the input.

surprised no one mentioned Gamo...
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#6240158 - 05/14/18 05:48 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
wormbobskey Offline
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 1936
Loc: Chauncey, Ohio
I use a Benjamin maximus PCP in 22 caliber as well as a hatsan at44-10 in 25 caliber. I also use a crosman 2240 Co2 pistol with good results. There are many options out there these days so look around and find what suits your individual needs.
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#6240522 - 05/15/18 07:01 AM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
WCT Offline
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Registered: 01/27/13
Posts: 17
Loc: OH
Gamo is limited to break barrel and PCPs air rifles which is why I didn't mention them.

Without a doubt, the PCP air rifles are going to be the best in terms of consistent precision and flexibility but they also require some sort of filling option which is going to cost an additional $179 (air pump) - $2,300 (compressor) plus based on your needs. So while you can get a decent PCP air rifle for under $200 these days, you'll still need a way to fill it which adds to the cost. My PCP setup includes $179 air pump, $600 75 cf and $700 100 cf carbon cylinder, and a $2,300 air compressor but most are not going to need all of this.

I've spent as little as $49 for a multipump .177 with a high of $2,300 for a .30 caliber from manufactures that include Crosman, Benjamin, Gamo, Daystate, Air Arms, FX, RWS, Diana, Brocock, Airforce, Extreme Big Bore and Western Big Bore. I also have every power plant except for CO2 and at least one of each of the following calibers .177, .22, .25, .30, .357, .408 and .45 and tested them on a variety of live animals for effectiveness. You can find frequent articles about air rifles for wildlife control purposes in W.C.T. Magazine.
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#6241186 - 05/15/18 11:25 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
TRapper Offline
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1291
Loc: Central IA
Yes our matching benjamin 392s are our dedicated store guns. 7 birds in 8 shots so far...partner pulled the shot. I personally shot 5 of the 7. Quiet shot with no recoil pumped 5 times. Thanks eric for recommendations
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#6241225 - 05/16/18 04:35 AM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
white marlin Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
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Loc: SW PA
very much appreciate all of your information!
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#6242441 - 05/17/18 08:34 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
Coonman300 Offline
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Registered: 03/19/15
Posts: 409
Loc: Alabama
I have an old Marlin bolt action 22 that I shoot the CB shorts in and it is quieter and more accurate than the pellet guns I've had. If you are in really tight quarters in the back yard I would use the Aguila colibri 22 shells. 20 grain bullets and very quiet. The only problem I've had with them is they don't feed thru my magazine and I have to place each shell in the chamber.
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#6243162 - 05/18/18 08:36 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
RF Wildlife Offline
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Registered: 08/29/10
Posts: 39
Loc: CT
22 cb short will blow through a sparrow and damage the birdhouse. benjamin 392 or other pump gun will do what you need on the cheap. always keep one pump in the gun to save the o rings.

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#6243223 - 05/18/18 10:42 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
Nessmuck Offline
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Registered: 11/14/11
Posts: 8063
Loc: New Hampshire
I can hit bottle caps with my .177 Gamo...@ 20 yards ...iron sights...
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#6243799 - 05/19/18 08:41 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 50
Loc: southern ont. canada
I could not get the accuracy that I wanted out of a break barrel spring gun. A pellet rifle with air as the power source has been a tack driver. The last springer was a 350 magnum. Maybe it's just me but a power full springer can be a challenge. I would suggest a air powered rifle.

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#6247865 - 05/25/18 09:37 PM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
Davexx1 Offline
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Registered: 02/07/09
Posts: 86
Loc: Winter Springs, Florida
A regular 22 rifle shooting CCI Quiet 22 cartridges with 40 grain solid bullet is pretty quiet and the shells are cheap.

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#6248507 - 05/27/18 06:02 AM Re: which air rifle? [Re: white marlin]
MB750 Offline
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Registered: 07/09/10
Posts: 1750
Loc: Idaville, Indiana
I shoot a couple of 5mm Sheridan pump ups. Bought them new 40 years or more ago. Found one at a yard sale for $45 & bought it too. Great guns if you can find them.
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