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Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. #6240137
05/14/18 06:06 PM
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100 million dollars of taxpayer cash is flown to AL shabob terrorists in Somalia every year by people gaming the low income daycare benefit system.
Last week the MN senate discussed actual legitimate private daycares being cited by department of human services because "their grass was too pokey".


The article says that public officials were aware of the Somali fraud and did nothing. We'll see if anything happens to them. Meanwhile, MN working families areally suffering a lack of LICENSED daycares. This licensing B.S. is an exclusionary practice and has little to nothing to do with the safety of the kid. It employs an army of bureaucrats. It's maddening.
Here is a link to the somali fraud story. Contact your legislator if you think they care:
http://www.fox9.com/news/investigators/millions-of-dollars-in-suitcases-fly-out-of-msp-but-why

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Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240157
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The average Somali IQ is 68, what does that say about those of us (MN taxpayers) who they are robbing...

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240168
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With civil forfeiture, in it's willy nilly state, I doubt they could get through at the airport with bags stuffed full of cash. Sounds to fishy to me.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240170
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Minnesota has too many Somali's, they need to go.

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: Catch22] #6240202
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Originally Posted By: Catch22
With civil forfeiture, in it's willy nilly state, I doubt they could get through at the airport with bags stuffed full of cash. Sounds to fishy to me.

They don't check muslims, that'd be profiling.

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240208
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Its tough investigating these things. There's a big difference between knowing something and proving something.

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240270
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Licensing for daycare centers is not BS. It is about protecting kids, sanitation, quality, nutrition, and pretty important stuff.

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: SwampRat83] #6240274
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Originally Posted By: SwampRat83
Minnesota has too many Somali's, they need to go.


If anything they need more. Another 200,000 would do good.

Last edited by Tweed; 05/14/18 09:28 PM.
Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: charles] #6240318
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Originally Posted By: charles
Licensing for daycare centers is not BS. It is about protecting kids, sanitation, quality, nutrition, and pretty important stuff.

Government isn't in charge of those things Charles; parents are. It is nice to think that government is capable of doing those things well, but they have proven inept as most other endeavors they creep into.

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240322
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Also the fraud is happening because government subsidizes low wages paid by employers by paying the cost of childcare. Whatever government becomes involved in seems to become riddled with corruption. Yet we alays want more?

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240334
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
Also the fraud is happening because government subsidizes low wages paid by employers by paying the cost of childcare. Whatever government becomes involved in seems to become riddled with corruption. Yet we alays want more?

I'm pretty sure that subsidizing everything, is Constitutionally sound.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240351
05/14/18 10:49 PM
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I don't believe it is constitutional issue. It is an issue of two political parties ruining America through government dependence and strangling individual responsibility..

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240364
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Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240367
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Originally Posted By: FlyinFinn
I don't believe it is constitutional issue. It is an issue of two political parties ruining America through government dependence and strangling individual responsibility..



If only we had a third party............


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Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240381
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No where in the Constitution does it mention 'The Right To Be Responsible'; allowing individual responsibility severely handicaps the socialist agenda and it should stop.
You have no right to be Responsible and it must be curtailed.

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240383
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Its tough investigating these things. There's a big difference between knowing something and proving something.


Maybe,you can enlightened us in the confirmation of this process?

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: charles] #6240388
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Originally Posted By: charles
Licensing for daycare centers is not BS. It is about protecting kids, sanitation, quality, nutrition, and pretty important stuff.
Wrong!!!
If a care taker is exposing children to any of that stuff use existing child endangerment laws against both the caretaker and both parents.
Any form of licensing is is simply a Tax. Most of the revenue from such taxes is usually spent on the enforcement and collection of the tax, but it does keep a lot of guberment workers busy.

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Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240399
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It's not anything of the above,...its pretty obvious! Play the game, You'll be rewarded. Does that ring hollow?

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240403
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Licensing for daycare centers is not BS. It is about protecting kids, sanitation, quality, nutrition, and pretty important stuff.

Lofty goals!,,,achievable in your aspirations? ,.....what is a daycare center?

Re: Daycare fraud and regulatory idiocy. [Re: FlyinFinn] #6240409
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I had a Somali come here to buy pigeons. He spent over an hour looking at pigeons in the Summer heat. When we got back down to his taxi, I heard a really strange noise. I asked him if he left some sort of animal in his car and he said no it was his daughter. She was less than a year old. She had cried so long, she no longer sounded like a baby. He could not of cared less. I imagine Somali child care is pretty horrid.

I have had another Somali pull a gun on me.

I don't believe any more Somalis should be allowed in the US. I have met around 30 Somalis and have a very, very, very low opinion of them.

I deal with hundreds of foreign born people a year and the only ones I really don't want around are Somalis. I don't know how you Minnesotans can deal with them.

Keith

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