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#6242943 - 05/18/18 04:05 PM raccoon help
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
Posts: 912
Loc: missoula, mt 59803
any suggestions for a coon that is in an attic with its babies and refuses to enter a cage trap. I have tried for a week with four cage traps set with fish, dog food, peanut butter and fish oil. She has to walk right by the traps to get to a garage door that she lifts up to get out at night and hunt for food. I would use a foothold but the place has cats all over. Thanks in advance

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#6242951 - 05/18/18 04:14 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
Jim Bethell Online   content
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 1072
Loc: Woodhull, Illinois 74
Sounds like she has been in a cage before. If she has, she will be hard to get into another cage. Sometimes a bigger cage will work. Maybe a dp trap. Something different. Do you know what you are going to do with the young when you catch the mother?

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#6242957 - 05/18/18 04:20 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
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Loc: missoula, mt 59803
I started with two regular sized coon cage traps and then added two big bobcat cage traps with gillutine doors. She won't go in any of them. I feel I could catch her in a dp but worry about the cats. I went into the attic again today with a spot light and the coon was with her babies and boy are they small. So if I catch the mom I plan to extract the babies and put them in a dog crate and relocate the mother and litter ten miles away.

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#6242972 - 05/18/18 04:37 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
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Loc: West Michigan
Set the traps outdoors, blow her mind with smell and she needs to see something wade up a paper towel. Put some bait outside the trap also. They eat with thee nose. I have been using those single slice spam. But you may get other animals. Try grape jelly. I never put any bait on the ground, I always put it on a leaf or something. JMO
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#6242991 - 05/18/18 05:14 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
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Loc: missoula, mt 59803
I will try the trap outside. I have put bait outside the cages and she won't touch it. I have enough bait in each trap if she gets caught she will eat good for the night.

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#6243115 - 05/18/18 07:30 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
Getting There Offline
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Loc: West Michigan
What are you using for bait?
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#6243124 - 05/18/18 07:40 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
Posts: 912
Loc: missoula, mt 59803
can of sardines in one, dog food and fish oil in another, lucky charms in the third and peanut butter and dog food mix in the last

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#6243130 - 05/18/18 07:48 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
rick brocious Offline
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Registered: 03/03/13
Posts: 35
Loc: pennsylvania
If you can get the kits when she is gone and put them in a cage where she would have to go threw the box trap to get to the kits .

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#6243144 - 05/18/18 08:09 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
Posts: 912
Loc: missoula, mt 59803
I agree but every time I go there she is in the attic.

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#6243235 - 05/18/18 11:17 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
Dawggone Offline
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Registered: 06/07/13
Posts: 38
Loc: Southeast Va
Catch pole...be gentle.....have rabies vaccine....and remove the kits w/ gloves....if not....refer
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#6243275 - 05/19/18 04:55 AM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 1200
Loc: Massachusetts
Someone attempted to remove a raccoon from this ridge line with a positive set, which turned into a SS. Be careful with positive sets especially when their young are present, they will tear through to make entry, or exit safely. I didn't bother trying to utilize the roof for trapping after I heard the horror story from the tenant on the last person who tried to trap for it. Opinions will vary but I ground trapped for it by placing a couple of in your face traps around the travel routes to the house and placed a trap around the trash cans. Did not use any fish based lure or bait, just a sweet paste with a heavy odor. I believe in cage presentation and that sometimes you have to get creative, but it isn't the end all be all method.



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#6243302 - 05/19/18 06:51 AM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
Posts: 912
Loc: missoula, mt 59803
thank you everyone for your replies and help. I am going to try a few different things this weekend and see what happens. The thought of trying to corner her and using a catch pole sounds to risky for me, especially walking on studs and realizing one slip and
I go through the drywall. She is also very aggressive when I get within twenty feet of the pups. Have a great day, Guy

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#6243408 - 05/19/18 09:02 AM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 1200
Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: mttrapperguy
The thought of trying to corner her and using a catch pole sounds to risky for me, especially walking on studs and realizing one slip and
I go through the drywall. She is also very aggressive when I get within twenty feet of the pups. Have a great day, Guy


Very well put thought process. Knowing your abilities and limitations will bring you a long way. Takes time to learn to handle animals, and even when you think you're sound in that training, other obstacles arise. Keep learning, it will come and the thought of removing an animal with a catch pole will be second nature. Just realize due to the fact wildlife is so unpredictable there are big risks in removing them in that manner. Not only for you but the homeowner/tenants as well.
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#6243695 - 05/19/18 05:39 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
DaveK Offline
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Registered: 01/29/14
Posts: 20
Loc: Michigan
Here is a video I put together for trap shy raccoons:
https://youtu.be/bnG8f2w5OGI

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#6243760 - 05/19/18 07:02 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
TDHP Offline
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Registered: 10/19/14
Posts: 1200
Loc: Massachusetts
Nice traps and video. JMO..but you don't need to use a specific trap for trap shy raccoons. If someone is having issues with avoidance with traps before they go out and drop a ton of money on a single cage for an animal. They should use a camera to see what that animal is doing or if the animal even approaches the trap and then try to correct or improve the trapping method by actually seeing what the animal is doing. Every Tech should have a camera in their bag of tools for the job.

The Trap that was secured to the roof they avoided like the plague and tore into the roof to avoid the Trap. When I asked the tenant where the tech placed the ground traps, the traps the tech used in the yard were nowhere near the travel routes to get up onto the roof for the raccoons. Both avoided similar cages that were used by another tech, both went into similar cages used with nothing more than just lure and exposed trap bed floor/pan. Nothing more than a $50 cage, no fancy complicated bait and lure systems. Set and go trap method. The tech gave some lame excuse why the raccoons wouldn't go into the cages. They made some money and stopped trapping services. Does it always work like that...nope but knowing the animal you're after will benefit you along with using cameras to see what the animal is doing. Downside to this job was as I pulled up I caught the tenant feeding the raccoon in the cage.






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#6243792 - 05/19/18 08:23 PM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
bob pake Offline
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Registered: 12/28/10
Posts: 50
Loc: southern ont. canada
Dog proofs and 220s have usually worked for me on a trap shy raccoon. Catching the pups and putting them in a cage sounds as though it should be a sure thing. I have never had it work for me.
Good luck.
Our success rate is very high with eviction products when the pups are very small and in a confined space like a chimney or small attic. Eviction paste is a important tool . It eliminates trap shy worries.

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#6244039 - 05/20/18 08:38 AM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
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Registered: 12/23/06
Posts: 504
Loc: Adirondacks, N.Y.
Just finished a raccoon job , Set a cam & made sure mom coon went outlast night, Removed 3 young from wall nest yesterday, Closed soffit opening & set cage trap. Mom was waiting this morning. Love when they go that fast & easy.
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#6257800 - 06/11/18 07:33 AM Re: raccoon help [Re: mttrapperguy]
mttrapperguy Offline
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Registered: 03/22/13
Posts: 912
Loc: missoula, mt 59803
finally caught the mom. I tried everything to remove her, including eviction lure. The home owner called me and said the raccoon was up a big pine tree so I went out there and removed the kits from the attic and placed them in a small cage trap and then set a big cage trap in front of them. The next morning I had her waiting for me and a nice pay check. I learned a lot from this experience.

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