Lord help us all.

I replaced all the florescent light fixtures in two interstate rest stops by me with LED fixtures. The guy in charge of maintenance kept asking me how you change the bulbs in them.

No surprise

Have you seen the one with a regular landline phone?

Sounds like fake news. I’m a millennial and I can install the light fixture and probably replace the wiring. The biggest problem I’ve noticed is the entitlement mentality of baby boomers. They are probably the hardest generation to supervise from a management perspective.

Well I looked it up guess I am a millennial born in 85. I am wiring my house that I am building, in a few months when I turn the power on we will see how I did and if it burns down.

For the win!


Man....I say this all the time.

We can’t even tie our shoes Matt. You better get somebody to help you.

I love stereotypes based on when we were born. Since we are all the same!

Baby boomers would be harder to manage cause you always know exactly where to find the millennial's. Either the safe place or the cry closet.

Good one Catch.........I especially like the " Cry Closet "

^^^
Says someone from the most triggered, special generation. #NotAllBoomers

You obviously haven’t had the honor of managing a boomer.

And I’m not saying that boomers are terrible. But, as a manager you need to know how to manage generational differences with all people.

The true issue is LIBTARDATION

it's rampant among all age groups

Fact!

All in fun Rob! I do admit though that you are the first person I have ever heard say baby boomers were harder to manage than millennial's. And I believe 9/11'ers was a term coined by Newsweek.

I did just realize something because of this thread. There are both Millennial's and Gen Z in college right now. So it's not all of the Millennial's fault our Country is going down the drain lol. They have company.

I’m not sure they even have a label yet. But they are in the workforce.

The boomers I have managed and have worked with seem to expect recognition and acclaim for just showing up and having “so many years service”. Because that is what they are owed.

Millennials that I have worked with and managed want to work hard and prove themselves because they know how they are perceived by everyone. They also want to be compensated and given promotions based on what they have accomplished and how they have performed. Not just time of service.

Do millennials and hard work go together ?

Speaking for this one and the one sleeping over yonder... yes... very hard.

Boomers- 1946 to 1964. These are the people your talking about? I ask because my experience and others I know have been the opposite.

Yes, I would say the 1954-1964 range are the worst. Can you send the opposite ones my way, I have a position opening up soon.

I don't doubt that .......just having fun.........btw I figured you to be older

And I’m not saying all are bad. Just my frame of reference I’d say the majority of boomers are worse than millennials. Now I do like a mixture of all generations because you get a good slice of experience and innovation and a certain go after it personality from some to prove themselves.

My personal favorite is the traditionalists/greatest generation.

I also know how to have fun AntiGov. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy!

I’m 35

Well lol, I guess that's where we can agree to disagree. My experience is the opposite, but there are definitely good in both. And if you have a greatest GEN working for ya, give him/her a raise lol.

We are on the older side of the millennial so that why we're smarter rob....or at least i will tell my self that. Most my age work hard around here. It's the born after 90 that's the slackers where I work.

I am 30 (born in 1988), so I am classified as a millennial, but this is downright sad. Not necessarily surprising, but very sad. I am personally ashamed of the majority of my generation.

Like I said, that is my experience, we are all different, we are people that way. It takes all of us to make the world go round.

He retired about 5 years ago! And I doubt he would come back so I can give him a raise. He is having too much fun with the grandchildren, maybe even great grandchildren now!. He did give me advice when he came back for another guys retirement. The day you can go, do it!

1946 - 1964, that probably means adults who have life experiences and do not appreciate managers who come up with these great ideas, that the boomers know will fail, because they have been there and done that. So they have no appreciation of the genius of diploma managers, whose main objectives seem to be is taking ideas that boomers have which are successful for their own and never mentioning that to upper management, and having pet mills who blindly follow orders, and when it all crashes, it is those boomers who get stuck doing the work with zero credit.
Liberal boomers get wind of the stereotyping of them and they will file age discrimination complaints and the feds will be stopping by for a chat which upper management will frown on.

I’m sorry you worked with people like that. It must have been horrible to not have voices heard or experiences given the correct amount of weight. Some people don’t realize the importance of life experience when it comes to decisions in true workplace.

It also sounds like people got screwed over by greedy people trying to weasel their way to the top on the backs of others. I have a boss just like that.

As for age discrimination, it is a terrible thing for anyone to be discriminated against based on their age.

He may have been in the Silent Gen Rob. And star flakes, That sounds bout right!!

Maybe! He’d be about 75 now. He did 20 years in the Air Force and then close to 30 with us. Great American!

Sorry! Back on topic.
So how about those millennials? Bunch of Ne’er-do-wells.

I do not consider myself a millennial but am on the boarder technically speaking (depending on generation scale used). Most 30-36 year olds I know we're raised with discipline (belt, chonclas, or anything else handy) are hard working,non cry baby no safe space needed.
I've worked very hard my whole life. Paychecks rolled in at 14 when I wasn't working I was playing baseball, working our field hunting getting firewood, helping dad with constant home projects etc...and am very far from a liberal or socialist.

When I think of millennials I think 20-29 year olds.

How do you manage a boomer? What is the process? Is there protocol?

Most boomers have been doing their job for so long they don’t need managing. They just need guidance when new policies or procedures are implemented from upper management.

When major issues do happen you listen to them. Ask for their input because they have seen a lot. They all have different world views and have a lot to bring to the table. I find it best to get them in on the problem solving process. Ask them what they think will help to solve the problem or how we can change the strategic management process. This gets them involved. But remember you are still the manager and have the final decision.

Also ensure that you always recognize them for what they do. They deserve it and will continue to be hard workers when they get recognized.

Things that make ya say Hmmmmm.

That’s what makes them harder to manage sometimes.




Goodnight, I gotta get up in 5 hours for work.

Please let them fade away without all the accolades! They did spend a certain amount of self resource displaying
a foundation,..or path if you will.
Jeeze, sometimes you feel like a carp in shallow water with Robin Hoods archers standing stoic but attentive,...
eyes on the prize!

Goodnight Rob, been a blast!

That is one of the most honest and coolest post I've ever seen!

I understand, I don’t like all the pomp and circumstance as well. I’m taking about recognizing them personally and in private. Not with all that hoopla about prizes and walking them out for employee of the year. Unless that is what they want. I prefer to treat people how they like to be treated.

Having read many of your post I would not have put you in the millennial category.

With this post I find myself right there with you. I worked with my Dad since I was 12. He did allow us to go to school. However we did miss days to work on jobs. Raked crete, laid blocks, shingles, siding... He did it all and showed it all to us. Built my own house with his help.

Like you, I suspect I may be a generation or so old school. If there is something you want, then work for it. If I need a hand out then I guess you already bought my work boots. I have scratched crap with the chickens before, didn't like like it, but not above doing it again. Family come first. I will do whatever it takes for them.

Jerry Jr.
Jerry Jr.

If there is something you want, then work for it.

Had to punch this one in here! No better words have been said,..so true!

Well, it's 230 in the morning here and I can't sleep, RA is a horrible thing, so I've had a couple tottie's and would like to send out a message to the millennials and Gen Z here on Tman and hopefully beyond. Generational gap, has always been there. When I was 9 I was delivering papers and mowing lawns in the neighborhood. My old man on Saturday mornings would wake up before dawn and come to my room and smack me on the forehead to wake me to get my work done. I was no fool and already had planned my day but to him, if I wasn't up before dawn, I was slacking. Until I was 14, then when he slapped my forehead and I woke up and told him, I have my day planned and stop concerning yourself with it did he give me his big toothy grin and say, what took you so long. Turned out, years later, he knew and loved having coffee with me on those Saturday mourning's. Us baby boomers and Gen X, were raised to be workers, we were raised to love our Country, our Flag, and it felt right. But it wasn't till I had a experience with my Grandpa that I really realized how wonderful our Country was. Grandpa was born in 1917 and ended up in the 14th tank battalion 9th armored division called the Phantom 9 in WW2. He was such a pleasant man. He was kind, generous, loving, caring and so hard working. He was love to all of us, and we to him. I was the thorn in his side cause I was the only one out of all us kids that ask him about his service and he always, with such love, was able to avoid me on that subject matter. Until one day, after Mam'ma passed. I would drive 4 hours to have breakfast with him an after on this one day he went to the basement and was rambling around, I hollered down to see if he was ok, he came up in full uniform with a picture album under one arm, and saluted me with the other. I started crying and he said, boy, your the only one who has ask me about my service so today is your day, you can ask me what you want and I will answer. I realize this is very long so I will not go into detail about the episodes, bullets flying, grenades and prayer. But I will say that as one of my questions, I ask him, how did he get through it and be able to come home to be such a good man. He replied, I was to get on the queen mary to france and I came to the ramp and stopped. I knew what was going to happen, so I said to myself..... Once I board this ship, I am no longer Jake and he clicked his heels together. When he got back, he reversed it. If any of us were to even brush up against a greatest Gen person, we should consider ourselves blessed. My point, albeit long, is, us Baby boomers and Gen X are worried sick that the Millenials and GenZ don't get it. This USA, is the best Nation in the world and we want you to love our Nation, our Constitution, our Flag, our Anthem, our Sovereignty and our way of life. To our fault you have received more of an indoctrination than an education. We, in a lot of ways have failed you youngins, but see through the BS and rise. Our Nation is the last of the Mohicans for real freedom. Raise your heads and look up, The BS your being taught is playing out live for you here, and across the pond. Fall in love with us and our great Nation. Give us hope for our precious Grandbabies. USA! Embrace freedom!!

As a millennial, this offends me. I think I am going to need to take a personal day off from work to nurse my damaged emotions back to health. Grabbing a frapachino and retreating to my safe place now...

As expected, there ya go little buddy...

I guess I'm a millennial, I was born in 82'. I had my first job at 12, started my own tree service business at 28, I do most all the mechanic work on my fleet, built my house and anything else needs done. I'm sure their a lot that can't, but I work for a lot of retirees from Florida and it never seizes to amaze me the stuff they ask me to do for them. These people can do nothing for themselves. I guess every generation has them

Interesting thread. I was born in 1951. I have a bad back and heart problems. I can do a lot of things but have reached a point where I would rather pay someone else to do them and spend my time doing more enjoyable things. As long as the elderly are paying you and not expecting freebies I have no problem with that. I pay others for their labor out of my own pocket and don't think I am entitled to have the government or society make my life easier. I also believe that most of the issues with the younger generations can be attributed to my generation and the environment that we, collectively, have created.

Coming from the guy who always has something to ***ch about.

Question: If these kids are too dumb to change a light bulb, what kind of job are they able to work to pay the rent in that place?

Catch 22
I love your last post there.
Guess I'm just a old Boomer now? with both my kids right at the beginning of the Millennial group. I've notice that my kids seem to know so much more than a lot of their friends. General knowledge if you will, but I took my kids with me every where and showed them lots of things. So I think to say all of those that age are inept is probably grouping.
What drives me nuts and I think is the case with lot of the younger folks. Even some of the old folks I've met. They go to college or Tec school then come to a job with us old timers. We may have started the job right off the street apprenticed or learned our way into the position we now hold. They come in want to be in-charge right away because that is what school taught them. They know all about the job from the books and schooling. May even have a degree in how to manage people.
Never mind that that old guy they are now supervising may have had input or written the book they learned from. Just didn't have to need or want to be the boss and run the company or business, what ever..They think they know more..
But then I maybe just bitter because I got nailed twice last summer. Both times I tried to give input on something. It was a safety issue in my eyes for sure. Got snapped at told "I got This" Ok then I walked away.. Then one of them young guys even went back bad mouthing me around the whole group. Telling people I was just the old guy wants to run around telling everyone what to do.. Well no! was trying to see that none of the 20 somethings he was directing got hurt. But if there is a next time with this individual?? I may just stand there watch him get whacked. Hard as that would be for me to do.. I've never been that kind of person in those situations to not say Stop That! But then I've never had young ones pop off at me like that before either.
I for sure would have never gotten away with mouthing off like that.
I never demanded respect from anyone as I know that is something earned.
Don't think just being and old guy don't mean ya earned it either.

O-well I'm just a whiny old boomer.

Mac

The trend in first world countries has been softer and less self reliant people....early retirement, ability to pay for all services instead of being able to do some things for yourself, lack of knowledge as to what a good job is vs smoke and mirrors.........gotta have the latest and greatest things.

So, in essence, society has dictated softness and lack of self reliance by the standards society sets. Each generation becomes softer until it ends.

With the cost of rent now days I could see someone expecting the changing of lightbulbs being an included service. I keep trying to talk my wife into getting a rental property, we could probably pay that mortgage and our own house mortgage with the rent.

Especially in your neck of the woods! Those FIBS would pay a good price for a summer rental property. But....you'd have to change light bulbs for them.

Well I guess I fall into the millennial category but I'm a lineman so I have the light bulb thing figured out and the high voltage side of things...but I do agree that most of the millennials are worthless

Wait until your managing Millennials that are of the age of the boomers your managing now, then you can compare apples to apples.

Bet those lazy boomers worked their butt of when they were 30 too.

You’re right hippie I’m sure the millennials will change as we age, I sure hope I do anyway.

And I wasn’t trying to say the boomers aren’t hard workers, they do their job well. I’ve just seen them expect special treatment just for having 30 years, even though they do the same job and have the same qualifications or less than a person with 10 or 15 years. No generation is really bad or the best. You will find lazy people and exceptional people in all generations. We are like people that way.

And I’m not saying tenure doesn’t matter, it just doesn’t carry as much weight as some boomers or Gen exer’s think it should.

exactly.

This whole thread has given me a smile...made my whole day really. I want to throw out a thought, I'm 30 and started mowing lawns when I was 12, built a trailer to pull behind my bike and away I went, been working ever since. I have certainly found my share of lazy folks from all age groups, and am guilty of calling some of the younger than me generation "snowflakes". But as a parent I realize that its my job to instill work ethic in my children and teach them right from wrong, so I scratch my head a little when I hear people labeling a generation as lazy or incompetent. My thoughts on this are why not look at the parents that helped guide then down that path...

Boy Hobbs that is exactly what I been wanting to say. I can't talk to much my parent weren't to hard on me but they sure were soft on my sister, and it shows. She is 27 and lives with my parents with her boy friend. I know they are my parents but I sure don't pass up a chance to tell they how dumb they are for letting that crap go on. I am proud to say I am a self made man.

Remember how well the researchers and pollsters performed in 2016? (Hint - not well) Also - One Poll, the ones completing this per the video are based in London & Bristol....Don't have time to dig deeper but I reckon we could find one from them specifically declaring Hillary the winner in a landslide.

All that aside - Turn down that music! Get off my lawn! Kids these days got no respect!

You should drunk post on tman more often...they're better than your sober posts, LOL.

I made Gen X by one year thank God, lol. And agree with all you said here.

I always get a laugh when people from Milwaukee use the term "FIB"...like they're somehow different.

Thank you Yote, but truth be told I wasn't drunk lol, just warm and cozy after a couple hot toddies. I would apologize for my "sober" post but I have to call things as I see them, so I can't. I will say, I am very concerned where the Gen Z will take us. I plan on living till I'm 107, so I'd like to keep my freedoms lol.

What is a lightbulb?

I didn't know you drank till I saw your sober post!

Well....considering we're in the same state, economic engine, and have a sincere love and appreciation for the whole state...yeah I'd say we're different.

"Can millennials change a light bulb?"

I know my kids can..........plus run heavy machinery, cut and split wood, shingle their own roof, tap trees and boil down..............etc

A Millennial Job Interview

A Millenial vs A Baby Boomer

Oh, ha ha ha lol. And BadgerTrapper97, great post!

I always look at myself as a baby boomer when in actuality I am a member of the silent generation(1944). No one ever mentions us because we are....well.. silent. I don't believe in stereotypes when it comes to generations. I know a lot of millennials who work their butts off. I think there is an alarming number of people who don't really want to get their hands dirty. I don't know how it is nation wide but here in Appleton Wisconsin there are "now hiring" and "help wanted" signs everywhere. The Technical College here has all sorts of money to spend on student aid for skills training (electrician, plumbers, welders etc) but not enough are applying. I'm not singling out any age group here but ...geeze.

My assistant at work is a millennial... one time a door lock set failed so the door couldn’t be opened, instead of him using the other door and taking the handle apart he asked google what to do in that situation..I don’t know what google told him but when I came to work the next day the door jamb was all marred up from the sawzall he used trying to cut the strike
Recently he told me he googled how to get the garbage cans apart that were stuck together.

Is this normal for millennials?!

Lots of useless people of all ages around.The further south you go the worse it gets.

I’m an early baby boomer and I can change lots of different light bulbs but I sure can’t figure out computers.

Now that's funny canvasback 2. To be fair, though, I can't shoe a horse.

"It's your civic duty"

My daughters boyfriend was tired of getting up for his job about two weeks ago.
The two of them just had a baby 2 months ago.
So he decided to quit. Didn't bother telling anyone. Just started not going to work one day.
Come to find out he plays video games for money at night, other people pay him to advance them levels in the games
they play. He thinks this is normal. Wonders why people are upset with him. Thinks we all have problems.

That must be a frustrating situation. Hope it works out.

Yes, I just don't get how some of these younger people think. Their motto is live for the moment.

Not that this isn't disturbing, it is. However, let's look at the mentality of the others also. You pay money to buy a game and then you turn around paying someone else to figure out the game for you? Good grief, so in other words you have bought yourself a participation trophy because you weren't skilled enough to figure it out on your own. This society is rotting.