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Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6254308
06/05/18 09:39 AM
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Rochester, MN
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When I used speed dip I used Coleman gas and mixed it pretty thin. It came off pretty easily by soaking less than a minute in CHEAP paint remover and “washing” with a stiff paintbrush. I could clean a trap a minute doing this. Then I dried them and re-dipped. It helps to do everything in July instead of waiting till October. The odor was gone in 2-days.

Now I wash new traps in hot water and Dawn. Rinse. Air-dry. Spray paint with flat black. Dry and dip in Full Metal Jacket. I’ve got better things to do than spend days dying, waxing and being traditional. In fact, using FMJ, all I really need to do is get rid of the factory oil before dipping. They’re going to be under dirt so color really doesn’t matter.


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Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6254697
06/05/18 09:58 PM
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Worse thing you can use on a canine trap

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: Tactical.20] #6254722
06/05/18 10:32 PM
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Well since nobody has beat up on ol' Newt I will say I have had good success with his water based Formula 1 on water traps, both foot holds and body grips. I mix it thin, about 4:1, let it dry a couple days and dip again. I like the brown color and no matter what Newt says it leaves your trap a nice dark olive green. A little overnight soak in 50-50 vinegar and water loosens the mix and you can power wash it right off. I still dye and dip my K9 traps because it is fun, allows me to drink beer, wonder why wax is so expensive and fiddle around in general.

Zim

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6254795
06/06/18 06:26 AM
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Its BROWN on snares
OD GREEN on traps.

I'm a snareman. SO its was named BROWN.

Thanks to everyone who uses my probuct.


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January 19-20-21 2024
NEWT -----------------OVER----------------









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Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6254836
06/06/18 08:13 AM
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Logwood and wax just to get into the season .. been seeing some literature that we should not be breathing logwood fumes .. respirators anyone?

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: Zim] #6254966
06/06/18 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Zim
Well since nobody has beat up on ol' Newt I will say I have had good success with his water based Formula 1 on water traps, both foot holds and body grips. I mix it thin, about 4:1, let it dry a couple days and dip again. I like the brown color and no matter what Newt says it leaves your trap a nice dark olive green. A little overnight soak in 50-50 vinegar and water loosens the mix and you can power wash it right off. I still dye and dip my K9 traps because it is fun, allows me to drink beer, wonder why wax is so expensive and fiddle around in general.

Zim


I really love it on my bodygrips. The "brown" color that dries to an olive green is perfect.


"Good Lord, thank you for your endless bounty. Lord please give me the strength to gather what I need"
Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255070
06/06/18 05:21 PM
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the only reason I used speed dip was to dip the traps that were not going to be used for a while and put in storage. They will clean up when the time comes to use them again.

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255097
06/06/18 06:29 PM
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Rust continues under the coating

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: Tactical.20] #6255108
06/06/18 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tactical.20
Rust continues under the coating



https://www.walmart.com/ip/Rust-Oleum-St...amp;athena=true

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255111
06/06/18 07:00 PM
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Tried stuff that was supposed to seal and stop rust years ago, rust continues to grow under it

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: Tactical.20] #6255125
06/06/18 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tactical.20
Tried stuff that was supposed to seal and stop rust years ago, rust continues to grow under it


I have used rust stop for 15 years haven't had any rust

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: KatKrazy] #6255224
06/06/18 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: KatKrazy
I’ve said it before........the best ratio for speed dip is 1 qt of Speed dip directly into 1 33 gallon trash can


Yeah I'll second this formula


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Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: JComer] #6255237
06/06/18 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: JComer
Originally Posted By: Tactical.20
Tried stuff that was supposed to seal and stop rust years ago, rust continues to grow under it


I have used rust stop for 15 years haven't had any rust
wonder why Chevy never used that on trucks?

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255361
06/07/18 04:51 AM
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I have never used the stuff, always been a logwood dye guy, but gotta wonder how long it takes the gas smell to disapate to the
point that a canine can`t smell it? I have tried Dakota line dip on my water traps with good success, but that's a water
based dip.

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255492
06/07/18 09:31 AM
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Bought stuff Paul Harvey was bragging about on the radio, didn't work

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: Dan Parson] #6255547
06/07/18 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dan Parson
I have never used the stuff, always been a logwood dye guy, but gotta wonder how long it takes the gas smell to disapate to the
point that a canine can`t smell it? I have tried Dakota line dip on my water traps with good success, but that's a water
based dip.


i grew up canine trapping in the 70'-80's when logwood dye was king and a certain amount of mystery generally existed around trap handling. sometime around 1998-2000 when i was concentrating on trapping a little more after a break my partner convinced me that we should be using dip instead--i think it was after a long session of my moaning about all the time we just spent simmering traps in a barrel. we've generally used speed dip since then with pretty decent results. i've even re-dipped traps in the late fall and used them in winter without issue.

my partner still uses the dip however about 5 years ago i reverted back to my old ways. i ran into the issue of build up to the point that i could transfer a light tar like coating to my hands when setting. partner always said it was from not thinning enough and no doubt he was right. secondly, when i was setting alot in the winter, the dip seemed to provide lousy protection against what basically amounts to marinating traps in a salt brine. and even after i'd try to quickly brush the rust and re-dip the rust came right thru the dip. lastly, at least in my mind, things have changed in my part of the world over the last two decades. coyote population has stabilized and probably peaked but the number of people that want to catch coyotes has too and its pretty noticeable in areas. so i eventually stripped the dip from all of my gear, put into the dye and waxed like the old days. however i generally concentrate on waxing now rather than routinely dyeing. i'm starting to mess with painting some but not sure what i think of it yet

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: Newt] #6255556
06/07/18 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: Newt
Its BROWN on snares
OD GREEN on traps.

I'm a snareman. SO its was named BROWN.

Thanks to everyone who uses my probuct.
I LOVE Formula 1 trap dip!! Been using it for 8 years now! Caught over 200 coyotes a year for last 4 years in Alabama summer heat. Formula 1 can be beat! grin

Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255559
06/07/18 11:17 AM
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Big blackbirds, I also don't use dye, just wax, I like idea of a coating like the extreme traps have

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Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255605
06/07/18 01:07 PM
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Powder coating powder coating powder coating.
Not that cheap paint on crap but the real stuff.

For you guys using dips why don't you go down to the hardware store and buy drive way sealer. Why pay twice as much for the same thing.

And most of those latex dips. The ones you thin with water are the same stuff you dip nets In to preserve them. They also make a petroleum based net dip.


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Re: For all the Speed Dip Haters [Re: tbn] #6255621
06/07/18 01:21 PM
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Speed dip is a paint. Not a driveway sealer. It was a paint product that was used to mark steal beams at the steel mill. One-day someone. Stole a pail full and dipped some traps in it. The rest is history. Sometimes when a business is sold the product is no longer manufactured to its original standards.


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