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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264171
06/21/18 07:38 AM
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If a American breaks the law they go to jail separated from there family right. why should anybody else be treated differently. so now the laws are changing im getting confused. so now they come and as long as they breed they wont be deported is this what im understanding?

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264195
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For days all we saw on the news was everyone from both parties demanding that Trump change this policy. So Trump changed the policy. Now all we see on the news is criticism of Trump for flip-flopping and reversing policy. crazy

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: Hupurest] #6264202
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Originally Posted By: Hupurest
Originally Posted By: Donnersurvivor
Businesses that knowingly hire illegals should be have all of their assets seized and auctioned off, why do we only/mostly target illegals and not the businesses that employ them? This would end immigration problems nearly immediately.


The key word is "knowingly"... you need to prove that the business KNEW that the person had fake documents, and then still hired them anyhow....

If they have a SS#, a state ID that match, then what? I am unaware of a database that a company can use to search and see if the ss# matches the name. so when they type it in, Jesus Espenoza's SS# doesn't match Doris McGinny that the ss# belongs to....


Perhaps that would be the solution.....everytime anyone gets a job, they get a background check like a 4473, to make sure everything matches...
But, thats just more government.... and we all know what more government creates......Problems....

and calls to seize the business and assets? what is this, Venezuela?
and you'd be in favor of putting all the Americans working there out of jobs, because the company unknowingly hired 20 illegals to pluck chicken feathers?

This is Bull, I have one employee and if I screw up my with-holding by one penny, I will get a hundred dollar fine and have to spend hours on the phone with some IRS mouth piece trying to resolve it. I don't believe we should seize companies but atleast make them sit on hold for hours and then talk to some irs employee who could give a *&^% about their problem.

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264220
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I stand by what I said, companies that knowingly hire illegals should be seized! If you hire illegals you are contributing to wage stagnation and unemployment, you are betraying your own people for a few shekels of profit. Look at the dairy industry, it is dyeing right in front of us as small family farms fold one after another and creameries have to send suicide prevention material out with milk checks, yet HUGE corporate dairies are still being built and expanded, these corporate dairies are relying on immigrant labor to cut the throats of the family farm with. Seize and auction off any business CHEATING the system and hiring illegals.

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264225
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Through our taxes we have to fund illegal immigrants education, healthcare, border enforcement, we have to deal with the criminal element that comes in unchecked, we have wage stagnation even with our low unemployment, as legal U.S citizens we deal with all of this so a few can profit off of illegal labor, its is time to end this nonsense and go after the businesses that are profiting at the expense of hard working legal tax paying citizens.

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264247
06/21/18 09:51 AM
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NBC is a joke what a one sided tell the story how they want you to think and believe. Even in pictures they show shows what they want you people to see so that you are haters of one of the republican party.

I hope all this hate they show comes back and things even out.


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264253
06/21/18 10:10 AM
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Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong! Come here illegally Get deported!!!!!!!


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: trapper4] #6264258
06/21/18 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: trapper4
Right is Right and Wrong is Wrong! Come here illegally Get deported!!!!!!!


Exactly Right!!

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264291
06/21/18 11:27 AM
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We have a number of 400 to 1200 cow dairies in my area and most of them use Mexican labor, supposedly they are all legal. Not sure how a farmer can verify status and I don't think they try very hard. They get housing and make good money but they work alot of hours.

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264296
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I've said it for years. Fine a business that uses illegals $10,000 per illegal and ENFORCE IT! No company would hire them. The jobs for illegals would dry up and that would greatly reduce the problem. It is not hard to come to the United States to work legally as long as you are not a criminal with a record. You can apply for a work visa and legally work here. There is no excuse. CASE CLOSED

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264300
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Work visas are more difficult to obtain and have a time limit, much easier just to sneak across.

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264335
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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: iaduckhntr] #6264351
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Originally Posted By: iaduckhntr
America, love it or LEAVE it!
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I hear that a lot, but it's always from people that refuse to admit that the US has a lot of problems. It seems that anyone who mentions US militarism, the police state, the poor education, or any of the numerous other issues we have is told to shut up and wave the flag.
Personally I'd like to see us work towards more freedom, but from what I see on this thread love of big daddy government and the police state has been mistaken for patriotism.

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Originally Posted By: CGilliam
Originally Posted By: iaduckhntr
America, love it or LEAVE it!
Dennis


I hear that a lot, but it's always from people that refuse to admit that the US has a lot of problems. It seems that anyone who mentions US militarism, the police state, the poor education, or any of the numerous other issues we have is told to shut up and wave the flag.
Personally I'd like to see us work towards more freedom, but from what I see on this thread love of big daddy government and the police state has been mistaken for patriotism.



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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264523
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The Media has never been one to let the facts get ion the way of a good story!


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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: Finster] #6264598
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Originally Posted By: Finster
I've said it for years. Fine a business that uses illegals $10,000 per illegal and ENFORCE IT! No company would hire them. The jobs for illegals would dry up and that would greatly reduce the problem. It is not hard to come to the United States to work legally as long as you are not a criminal with a record. You can apply for a work visa and legally work here. There is no excuse. CASE CLOSED


There are MILLIONS of non businesses ( individuals , many anti immigration ) who hire illegals to perform all kinds of tasks and projects so they can save a buck . These hypocrites talk out both sides of their mouth.

no way to run this issue down

Build a wall , mount some guns

Funny how the sound of gun fire is the same in all languages and an effective deterant to all but the deaf

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: BigBob] #6264608
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Originally Posted By: BigBob
The Media has never been one to let the facts get ion the way of a good story!


They aren't even interested in a story anymore, its simply "here is what we want you to believe."

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: AntiGov] #6264615
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Originally Posted By: AntiGov

Build a wall , mount some guns

Funny how the sound of gun fire is the same in all languages and an effective deterant to all but the deaf


Oh great! Now you want us to be over run by deaf aliens

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Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264625
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The reason the illegal aliens keep invading the US is that rewards outweigh the risk of being caught. To stop illegals from coming here, the consequences of coming here illegally need to be more severe, employers need to be severely punished for hiring illegals, nothing good or of value should be given to illegals, organizations that give support to illegals need to be severely punished. This would stop illegal immigration and probably will never happen because of the money and emotion involved.

The only other option is to build a physical barrier, like a wall.

Keith

Re: over 100 illegals arrested yesterday [Re: bass10] #6264640
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There are other options, most would prefer to avoid,but we cant seem to land the coin on edge.
We've been seeing this since Reagan's amnesty!
When will anything be done!

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