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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
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LOL, Aaron. Here's some fuel for the fire, and some first hand experience of an eleven year Marine vet, pro gun boots on the ground person. I personally found it a good read to help me understand what happened down there. I hope the few who did take some guns got what they deserved. http://prepare-and-protect.net/2014/08/firearms-and-katrina/
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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
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07/05/18 01:43 PM
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Warrior....Any word that the street cops "THINK" they don't want good/honest people armed to be able to protect themselves (and family) is completely FALSE. BUT, the word of the street cops/servants NEVER get out to the people. This is why every Police Dept in the country has a policy that their officers will NOT talk to the media? There are usually only a few people in every agency allowed to talk to the media (and it's not the guys/gals in the field). These people are political pawns for the mayor, city council...or whatever political entity they answer to. So we have what we have here...a total misconception of what the guys on the street think. Like said, nobody here knocking on anyone's door asking for their guns. Aint happening (I obviously can't answer for out East).
Get to know the dumb street cop running from 911 call to 911 call. Those men (and women) have a fAR different insight and thoughts on gun control. I got into a heated debate with a city council member a couple years ago about it. Braindead (elected) lib told me we needed more gun laws. I told her we have way too many now and the only ones that abide by them are good citizens. The bad guys could care less about another law....more laws would just further depress our good citizens from harm. She was clueless...but that's whos at the top, talking to the media.
I did bring my gun to Palm Springs a few years back. Called the desk cop and asked him their stance on it first. He said bring it, no problem. So that's one calif cops view on it, anyhow.
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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
[Re: Finster]
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07/05/18 01:50 PM
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From the above article under "article 1:"
So, if you find yourself in the same situation as Patty Konie in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, Edwards said there are a few things you should be mindful of:
“You cooperate, you get the names [of the officers], you get all the information that you can, you hire an attorney and you have that attorney contact the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund,” he said.
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In the article it is never explained who "Edwards" is. I presume he must be some law enforcement authority. This paragraph I quoted came just after it was explained that federal law prohibits law enforcement from confiscating guns during a natural disaster. During times of disaster, when institutions of society have broken down is EXACTLY when you need to be armed, yet Edwards recommends handing over your guns and hope to survive the natural disaster and win in the court room. What a bunch of baloney. Dangerous baloney.
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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
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07/05/18 01:54 PM
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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
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07/05/18 02:08 PM
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warrior
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Warrior....Any word that the street cops "THINK" they don't want good/honest people armed to be able to protect themselves (and family) is completely FALSE. BUT, the word of the street cops/servants NEVER get out to the people. This is why every Police Dept in the country has a policy that their officers will NOT talk to the media? There are usually only a few people in every agency allowed to talk to the media (and it's not the guys/gals in the field). These people are political pawns for the mayor, city council...or whatever political entity they answer to. So we have what we have here...a total misconception of what the guys on the street think. Like said, nobody here knocking on anyone's door asking for their guns. Aint happening (I obviously can't answer for out East).
Get to know the dumb street cop running from 911 call to 911 call. Those men (and women) have a fAR different insight and thoughts on gun control. I got into a heated debate with a city council member a couple years ago about it. Braindead (elected) lib told me we needed more gun laws. I told her we have way too many now and the only ones that abide by them are good citizens. The bad guys could care less about another law....more laws would just further depress our good citizens from harm. She was clueless...but that's whos at the top, talking to the media.
I did bring my gun to Palm Springs a few years back. Called the desk cop and asked him their stance on it first. He said bring it, no problem. So that's one calif cops view on it, anyhow.
Calvin, of that I have no doubt. I have good friends that wear badges. To a man they have no problem with the most open definition of "shall not be infringed". However, that does not speak toward all of law enforcement and they all acknowledge that many times "let the judge sort it out" is the crux of the moral dilemma of enforcing bad law. I think we may agree that the judges are many times even worse. Add to that the real cost of justice in the courts and you understand just why us common folks live in fear of law enforcement.
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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
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07/05/18 03:34 PM
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Better gun laws was the result, but you can't seem to stand the NRA and the SAF making headway.
The bolded portion may be where the NRA ethos and mine clash. The idea that there is pro-gun laws and anti-gun laws. Any additional legislation does not bring us closer to my reading of the second amendment. New laws still infringe and still allow government to control who has guns and when. Infringement. The path back to Constitution does not lie with new legislation but through the repeal of gun legislation. The NRA isn't into doing that because once we arrive back to 1776 in terms of gun law, the need to send money to litigate would disappear and they'd be an organization focused on fundamentals of gun use and enjoyment. I would perhaps join at that time. I'm up for a shooting match.
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Re: NJ Attempts Confiscation
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07/05/18 04:57 PM
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Oh my. You mean I'm not the only one comparing nra to peta? Say both are only interested in profit from a poltical position that is polarized?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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