Sweet Corn Question
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I put chicken manure on my garden this year for the first time. The sweet corn has done well so far. The stalks are taller than in the past and it has grown fairly fast. It is starting to form ears now and most stalks are showing 3 and 4 ears of corn. In the past before I fertilized I would usually get one nice ear and maybe a nubbin off each stalk. Never have seen 3 or 4 ears per stalk like this year.
My question is should I pull the 3rd and 4th ears off so all the energy goes to the 2 remaining ears or should I leave them alone so the coon will have plenty? I'm thinking I should pull them off because they probably won't amount to anything but I thought maybe someone on here might know.
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Chicken manure is number one for nitrogen, rabbits number 2 I think, I have rabbits I installed electric fence, so far no coons
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Re: Sweet Corn Question
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I agree with Bryce. My experience exactly. Better yield with one major ear and one minor rather than 3-4 minor ears.
If you are going to sell it, you need the major ears. Sell the minor ears as seconds. I used to grow a few acres of sweet corn. The money was in the major ears. I made enough money to break even which was good because I really needed the money!
Check out Incredible, Bodacious, and Kandy Korn. They are the super sweet SH2 types.
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Re: Sweet Corn Question
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Why you see in field corn that they only ever see one ear on each stalk. Variety, many have been "bred" that way. Though two ears is common on most varieties around here.
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Why you see in field corn that they only ever see one ear on each stalk. Around here if a farmer only had 1 ear per stalk they would go under !!!! 2 is normal , 3 is common. Field corn has the height to produce the more ears.
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After a couple trial years, I moved up in the world and I planted the sweet corn with a really nice precise 2 row transport planter that had fertilizer boxes. It applied a thin strip of fertilizer just outside the seed so when the roots grew they would reach the fertilizer and really take off. I used seed plates for standard spacing in the row and 40” between the rows. I always had great results with that setup.
Geese pulled out some of the young plants. Blackbirds and crows were frequently after the corn.
It was essential to put electric fence around the field. Starting from the ground, a wire at 3”, 6”, and 9”. Then one higher up for deer. I used a 50 mile fence charger for that 2 acres. I put small dabs of peanut butter on the wire. The wires were so hot that they would sometimes kill raccoons and opossums.
Some years the sweet corn was not so good - either too little or too much rain. Actually, a couple years the sweet corn was fairly good to me - I broke even or made about $3.00. In the really good years, 2 acres of sweet corn bought me a new house, a vacation home, a new truck, an around the world vacation, and a hair transplant.
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I'm not laughing best we can get hear is 3.50 more money in green beans and black berrys hear, my wife's grand parents live about 2hrs from us and they get up too 7 dollers a dz. I can't figure it out but I've seen I'm sell its crazy, if I could get that I could make a little on it. Colt
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The race was to have the earliest sweet corn. But the early varieties are not nearly as good as the full season corn. If you grow your own, the variety that I liked best was called Bodacious. My wife’s favorite was called Incredible. It really is worth the work.
20 years ago, I sold mine for $3.00 per dozen. It is much more expensive now to grow the same corn. When I stopped selling it people asked me for a few years to grow it again.
Using 5 varieties, i planted all of my corn at the same time. When it started maturing, I was picking fresh corn daily for almost 5 weeks. It was really fun and everybody loved the corn. I used to take it to work in the back of my truck in the parking deck. People would take corn and put the money in an envelope.
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Re: Sweet Corn Question
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If you get the rain it will be ok. Don't think I have ever heard a farmer / gardener say "My corn has too many ears on it ". You northerners crack me up ....!!!! You must have a reading comprehension problem. I never said my corn has too many ears on it. Read it slower the next time. I just commented that the corn has 3 and 4 ears on it and I have never seen that before. I credit the chicken manure. I have never fertilized this garden until this year. I'm not selling the corn. It is for us and the family. I am growing Incredible this year. In the past I have grown it, as well as Bodacious and Miracle. I think I will pull the smaller ears off of about 10 stalks and see if the remaining 2 ears on those stalks do better than the stalks that I leave the 3 and 4 ears on.
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was in a ripoff store today 4.99 a dz we sell for 3 I've had no trouble selling corn for 5$ a dzn for a couple of years now. Never have trouble getting rid of it.
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That corn is beautiful. I would buy that for $5 a dozen. I used to grow a variety of the biracial corn that was good - can’t remember the name.
For all the land, equipment, tools, time, sweat, and work involved, good fresh sweet corn should sell for at least $6 a dozen. For freshly picked Bodacious, I would happily pay $12 a dozen. Somebody please tell me when to put the water on to boil.
With the development of the super sweet varieties that are designated SH2, many old standard varieties are no longer planted. Has anyone planted any of the old varieties? I had an old friend who was a dairy farmer. He would only plant Silver Queen.
“Due to technical difficulties” my entire garden consists of two tomato plants in planters on the porch. Well, all the food plots get planted on August 15.
I am looking forward to having a nice garden again next year.
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When i was growing it, Bodacious was still considered a SS variety. I like the deep kernels, but still tender. My wife said it tasted like field corn, Ha. Wife liked Incredible because the kernels were smaller, very tender, and delicate, even though the ears were large,
I like that 50 cent per ear.
What are some of the newer super sweet varieties? Next year, I will plant just enough for me and wife plus some to freeze. So I will plant of course bodacious and incredible. Plus I would like to plant a new biracial variety and a new yellow. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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butter and sugar like.should just be-yellow,white,bi-color,now that there is over 5,471 kinds of sweetcorn anymor.i stick to butter and sugar for early and silver queen for late.mornin.
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butter and sugar like.should just be-yellow,white,bi-color,now that there is over 5,471 kinds of sweetcorn anymor.i stick to butter and sugar for early and silver queen for late.mornin. ok,,one smoked pike(large) per 2 dz?
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If you get the rain it will be ok. Don't think I have ever heard a farmer / gardener say "My corn has too many ears on it ". You northerners crack me up ....!!!! You must have a reading comprehension problem. I never said my corn has too many ears on it. Read it slower the next time. I just commented that the corn has 3 and 4 ears on it and I have never seen that before. I credit the chicken manure. I have never fertilized this garden until this year. I'm not selling the corn. It is for us and the family. I am growing Incredible this year. In the past I have grown it, as well as Bodacious and Miracle. I think I will pull the smaller ears off of about 10 stalks and see if the remaining 2 ears on those stalks do better than the stalks that I leave the 3 and 4 ears on. Oh I read it correct you are wanting to know if others thought it had TOO many ears on the stalk to produce quality corn. YOU ask should you remove all but one in order for it to produce Example I have 3 kittens. I think that is TOO MANY kittens . I gave little Johnny 2 of my kittens. Now I have 1 kitten. It will grow up to be big and strong !!! Read it slow may help you to do the math..... But what do I know I just live in a state you buckeyes dream about living in or you wouldn't come down here to Lake Cumberland every weekend... LOL
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Oh I read it correct you are wanting to know if others thought it had TOO many ears on the stalk to produce quality corn. YOU ask should you remove all but one in order for it to produce
Example I have 3 kittens. I think that is TOO MANY kittens . I gave little Johnny 2 of my kittens. Now I have 1 kitten. It will grow up to be big and strong !!!
Read it slow may help you to do the math.....
But what do I know I just live in a state you buckeyes dream about living in or you wouldn't come down here to Lake Cumberland every weekend... LOL
I don't think you understood his question if you read it right. Using your example, if you fed those 3 cats enough to keep one alive, if you gave two away the one you keep and feed the same amount would grow better. Yes, it will grow up stronger. Same as his question.....Can there be too many ears feeding off one stock. Valid question.
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Oh I read it correct you are wanting to know if others thought it had TOO many ears on the stalk to produce quality corn. YOU ask should you remove all but one in order for it to produce
Example I have 3 kittens. I think that is TOO MANY kittens . I gave little Johnny 2 of my kittens. Now I have 1 kitten. It will grow up to be big and strong !!!
Read it slow may help you to do the math.....
But what do I know I just live in a state you buckeyes dream about living in or you wouldn't come down here to Lake Cumberland every weekend... LOL
I don't think you understood his question if you read it right. Using your example, if you fed those 3 cats enough to keep one alive, if you gave two away the one you keep and feed the same amount would grow better. Yes, it will grow up stronger. Same as his question.....Can there be too many ears feeding off one stock. Valid question. That is why I said if you get plenty of rain the ears will do fine and fill in ..... And you missed my point , and proved it . ONLY that type of question would come from somewhere north of the Ohio river.
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jbyrd,
You are a moron. You can't comprehend anything. Pull your head out of your (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and get some air. My original post mentioned leaving 2 ears but you somehow come up with leaving one now. I know it isn't a Kentucky thing because I have friends there and they aren't stupid like you. You graduate from the third grade yet or are you still attending?
I have never been to Lake Cumberland. Lots of nice lakes up here to fish and recreate at.
Thanks for the comments from the rest of you. I am pretty well educated in most varieties and types of corn. I managed a seed company many years ago. The owner recommended Miracle, Incredible, Bodacious, and Illini Extra Sweet for yellow varieties. I've had a garden and grown corn for years. As I explained (but not well enough for the Kentucky moron), I have never seen that many ears on corn stalks in the past. Thought maybe there might be some commercial growers on here that would know if pulling the extra ears and leaving TWO would be beneficial for the other ears. I would rather have 2 good ears than 1 good ear and 2 or 3 nubbins that don't form properly.
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Gladly
I will even edit my one word response.
I just had a good friend die. It's hot but not too hot. Maybe on another day it wouldn't have bothered me. I asked a simple question that isn't too hard to understand. How my words got twisted is beyond me. I have gotten PM's saying the same thing you just did-that you see my point.
It is easy to see why people stop posting on this site. I always treat people with respect and expect the same in return. I like to joke around on here with people I know, but I always add smiley faces so they know I'm joking, just in case. I usually just ignore certain people and or comments but today I didn't.
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Am I the only one growing Round Up Ready sweet corn with the Bt gene. Plant it, fertilize it, spray it. No bugs, no weeds, no work. Taste better than any sweet corn Ive ever eat and Ive grown a lot over the years. Give me my SV9010Sa sweet corn from Seminis.
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