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MGM sues victims in fed courts #6281938
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saying all lawsuits must be dropped and future suits cannot proceed due to a post 9/11 law which makes MGM non-liable since they hired a security team.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mgm-resorts-sues-more-1-172715315.html
MGM Resorts sues more than 1,000 victims of Las Vegas shooting
The Independent Emily Shugerman,The Independent Tue, Jul 17 11:27 AM M

The owner of a hotel in which Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock stayed during his deadly rampage last year, has filed suit against more than 1,000 of his victims in an attempt to avoid liability.

MGM Resorts International filed suit in Nevada and California this week against victims of the 2017 mass shooting – the deadliest in US history. The lawsuit argues that MGM cannot be held responsible for deaths, injuries, or other damages stemming from the shooting, and says all claims against the company “must be dismissed”, according to local reports.

The suit does not seek compensation from victims, but seeks to prevent future lawsuits against the company from moving forward, the Las Vegas Review Journal reported.

“Years of drawn out litigation and hearings are not in the best interest of victims, the community and those still healing,” MGM spokeswoman Debra DeShong said in a statement.

MGM owns the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, where Mr Paddock stayed during the shooting, as well as the Route 91 Harvest Festival, where the shooting occurred.

Fifty-eight people were killed and more than 800 were injured in the shooting last October, when police say Mr Paddock opened fire from his 32nd-floor suite with weapons he had stockpiled over the course of a week.

More than 450 victims of the shooting sued MGM last November, alleging negligence on the hotel's part. At least four other lawsuits have been filed against the company by victims who were injured at the concert, or by family members of the deceased, according to Reuters.

MGM’s lawsuit cites the 2002 SAFETY Act, which protects companies that deploy certain security technologies from being held liable for claims related to an act of terrorism. The company claims it cannot be held liable because it employed a security contractor that had been certified by the Department of Homeland Security for “protecting against and responding to acts of mass injury and destruction”.

The FBI has not defined last year’s shooting as an act of terrorism.

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6281941
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Stay classy MGM! NOT


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Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6281949
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It sounds bad but i agree with MGM they are not at fault it's called personal responsibility, that murdering piece of garbage is responsible..... very sad all the way around.

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6281950
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I hope like hades they win! What could they have honestly done to stop the madman. Full pat downs and baggage checks at check in?
American business is and our society is under assault from the bottom feeding ambulance chasers scamming the legal system.


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Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6281951
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I find it hard to see how MGM was at fault.

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6281977
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True, but suing the victims is pretty classless and insensitive.

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Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6281994
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How is this in anyway MGM's fault? Counter-suing to stop frivolous litigation against the corporation may have been their only option.

These same folks are probably suing gun-makers, the cops, and anyone else remotely involved.

Of course the media will have a field day with this, it's a liberal's dream story; "Big, evil corporation sues victims of shooting it allowed to happen."


Eh...wot?

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: AJE] #6281999
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Originally Posted By: AJE
I find it hard to see how MGM was at fault.


I'm always on the side of personal responsibility. Going to a large event makes you a target and by going to one you must accept that. That being said if you put on a large venue you are responsible for that venue. I think you have at least some duty to provide a reasonable amount of security just like you have to have fire exits.

So I think they question is was the security team they had competent or just some goons with badges?

I do know that they have a brand new security team. MGM "Civilian swat" team

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6282029
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I think the shame here is that a business feels a need to protect themselves from law suits in this case.

Who in their right mind would think a hotel owner is responsible for preventing someone from shooting out of one of their windows?

What kind of people is our country populated with when a jury would hold them responsible?

I think I will sue the local library because I have a neighbor who has horrible dyslexia. I think I will win. Its an inconvenience to me that I can not leave him written notes when I need to communicate with him.


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Is a restaurant responsible for giving you food poisoning? I think they are if they don't follow good cleaning practices.

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6282041
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So your ok with a desk clerk searching his your luggage and consficating firearms?

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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
So your ok with a desk clerk searching his your luggage and consficating firearms?


Nope. Not at all. All am doing is asking the question. Was the security team competent and following good protocol. If they where then I think MGM did what they could. If not then I think they do share some responsibility.

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6282046
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Are you on drugs?


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Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6282053
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A cop lead the security team up to the room and then failed to engage.

Its a business decision and lawsuits are a big problem in this country. The legal system leaves something to be desired especially most lawyers.


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Who was responsible for security at the venue? MGM right? So the only question is did they do it right. I'm not saying they didn't. I'm just saying we should look at what they did before you say they have no responsibility. If they did every reasonable thing they could then good on them.

Re: MGM sues victims in fed courts [Re: adam m] #6282065
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Perhaps the victims will get around to suing his mom for having him and raising him up to adulthood.

Many lawyers are just certified "gamblers" betting the odds with others' misery.

If you ever drive route 13 south through the eastern shore of Va (the poorest of Va) take note of how many injury lawyer billboards. Sad


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If someone had flown a plane into the crowd, could that have been construed to be MGM's fault? The buck has to stop somewhere.. But where?

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I don’t think MGM had any choice but to sue. It’s an unfortunate event that happened. Being a victim of someone’s stupidity does not qualify you as eligible for compensation unless that compensation comes from the person who made you a victim. IMO. I don’t like the way this is going. By the time it’s over, you will have to have all of your luggage checked and you will have to go through a TSA type check every time you get a hotel room.

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It's a business move nothing more then that just not classy, I doubt the jury will see it as a class move also so I would think it's to gain some legal ground to reduce the payouts.


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It's a big Mess, they just need a Win to protect themselves... To show they were not liable for the actions of their guests. If you owned a Ma and pop motel would you want "victims" of a crime committed by a guest to Put you in Bankruptcy court.???


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